Originally posted by NOTGATE
First of all I try to make some structure so I can deal with your post:
my comments in italics
If i am able to wake, then surely my previous state must have been sleeping. It follows then that if i am unconscious then surely i must have been conscious.
yes. But to estimate the precise moment between sleeping and not sleeping might be very difficult to find. Compare the problem: Where am I exactly when I jump? I am not on the ground, since that would be before jumping, and I am not airborne yet, since that would be after jumping. (I have a maybe not convincing idea on this)
This cycle of balance is evident in all we perceive. If i am alive then i surely must have been dead.
No. I must have been "unliving". It would be the same to say if I erect a building it must have fallen down before, which is kind of ridiculous.
Not the same as not existing because when i die i leave my body and it can be observed deteriorating.
So you have to explain to us what exactly you mean by "i". There are people out there who do believe that all of our experience and emotion is "just" a chemical/elecrtical phenomenon. For them the body would be the "i".
So When does my soul deteriorate?
In comes without definition the concept of "soul" which is at least a very complex construct.[/I]
Are we not all bound to knowledge of our fore fathers, and merely need to recall that ancient wisdom of ages, or do we progress because what we learn is somewhat encoded in our genes.
[i]Completely new thought without apparent connection to the previous. And apparently defining a few things differently (but not explicitly) as before.
Either way we advance, become more structured more ethical and less chaotic.
Do we become more ethic? As person as society as humankind??? you should explain where you are.
[/i]Wheres the entropy in this?
And another new concept in the discussion about what entropy you are talking? system (you, your body, your body-soul? information? universe?
If the universe is slowly becoming one.
Hä? you should explain that before anything can be discussed. This is science forum not spirituality, so I take that you talk about acollapsing universe here?
when all energy and matter has spent its last, when the space between interactions has become so vast that relativity ceases to exist and time becomes irrelevant because there are no two things to be relative to each other.
So you talk about an infinite expanding universe, how does this become one? (previous statement)
Relativity has no boundray in geometrical distance. you can relate all distances regardless.
Plus you seem to imagine an equal distribution of matter, which is clearly not the case and won't be, you need some energy to break up the few chunks of matter clinging together today (Earth, sun, Voyager1...) how will that take place?
Surely that is the ultimate structure, One. Just one. The absolute. And yet like a breath it too will have to return to something else.
Please do pose the ultimate riddle, if you justa want some kind of philosophical/spiritual discussion find an appropriate thread. Thank you and I am open to further the discussion. Cheers