Originally posted by twhitehead
Yet above, you falsely quoted me saying: "determinism rendered false all things measurable".
YOU misquoted ME, then had the nerve to suggest that I misquoted YOU.
[b]Indeed, it was a strange misconstruction of my comment.
No, it wasn't. Your understanding of English is at fault. The word 'anything' in my sentence does not mean what you think it m ...[text shortened]... e, and claiming you were quoted out of context, to try and place the blame for your error on me.[/b]
Anything refers literally to any thing. My comment was specifically about free will, not anything. If 'anything' in that sentence was meant to refer to 'free will' instead of anything you should have said that.
If you noticed, I already retracted the comment you continue to harp on. The original context, which has been lost in the flood, was regarding the impracticality of determinism as a scientific term. It was admittedly imprecise, in that I was referring to the forms of the vague term "determinism" which do claim that free will does not exist. It seems that both schools of thought exist, but I wasn't specific enough and neither was your reply.
Determinism can be compatible or incompatible. It is fatalistic, theological, logical, many-worlds, causal, naturalist, or necessitarianist. It can seemingly be, ironically, almost
anything except indeterminism, which is equally fraught with confusing schools like hard, soft, libertarian, physicalist, or anomalous monism. Most importantly, deterministic or indeterministic models to explain physical systems under investigation are empirically indistinguishable. Its many many definitions are amebous, vague and extremely subjective.
Contrast that with free will, which according you is vague pseudoscientific nonsense, even though neuroscientists are busily studying mechanisms of action.