Originally posted by Thequ1ck
How difficult is it then to find a group that have undergone devlopment
outside of these conditions for a comparism?
on a side note I found this on wiki -
Studies have shown that Chess requires auditory-verbal-sequential skills, not visuospatial skills.[19] A German study found that Garry Kasparov has an IQ of 135 and an extremely good memory.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environment_and_intelligence
I heard Kaspy has an IQ more like Fischer, 180. He was very advanced at a very early age, and had the definite advantage of being sane. I don't know the truth of course, but the saying goes, after about and IQ of 120, there is little correlation in chess and the upper ranges of IQ. I would like to try a test: The person with the highest modern recorded child IQ was Marylin Vos Savant, who clocked in at about 228. Of course as an adult, you can't keep getting those #'s but I would like to see her learn to play chess and see her spend as much time as say, the Polgar sisters, and see what level she would reach. I bet it would be at least IM but world champ? Doubtful.
BTW, when Calculus was finally really invented and not toyed with as in Arabia a thousand years before, close but no cigarπ, it must have been its time because it came independently in two places almost at the same time, Newton and Leibnitz. I gather they didn't like each other too muchπ Newton took it a lot further than Libby of course but still, they both came up with it at the same time, so my supposition is, when the background work has been done, it is its time to be invented and just happened twice in the case of Calculus. If they hadn't, someone else would have within ten or twenty years would be my guess.
Remember the Babylon batteries? They found fossil remains of what would seem to be big jars with a center electrode, the remains of electrolyte and a metal outer shell inside those big water jugs they used in ancient times. But they apparently only gold plated statues with it, which then supposes they also knew about electrochemistry at some rough level but holding it secret just killed it and they missed out on the opportunity to put men on the moon 4000 years ago!