Points lost to cheats

Surely there is a simple solution to the problem of a player being banned part way through around of a tournament. The player's record should be expunged from the tournament round. This is what happens in football leagues, so why not on RHP.? Obviously this is 'unfair' to players who have beaten a banned player, but players who have not finished their games lose the opportunity to win games.

Originally posted by SwissGambit
In tournaments and clan leagues, if any of the players are banned for cheating, their name is crossed out, and their scores zero'ed out.

However, there is no correction to the scores of their opposition. This means those who lose to cheats get zero, while those who still have games in progress with the cheat get wins by timeout.

Instead, all points ...[text shortened]... ] simply by continuing to play until the cheat got banned. The rest had to take losses/draws.

I tried to rec this but system wouldn't let me for some reason. 🙁

Originally posted by SwissGambit
In tournaments and clan leagues, if any of the players are banned for cheating, their name is crossed out, and
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all points scored against cheats should be taken away once they get banned, so that nobody profits by having a cheat beat their opposition while they get free points from the banning.

[Edit: "all points" means game points, not rating points. Re-rating tons of games is too much of a hassle.]

Recc'd (worked for me)

To be clear, clearing out the banned player's tournament points in the current round of any open tournament is an excellent idea.

Previous rounds, and rating points should be left alone - the world has moved on.

As to whether to include players banned for other reasons in the tournament points clearout. I don't feel particularly strongly either way, but given that they will not progress, there is some justification in putting all points gained against them to zero too.

It may not be letting me Rec it because I already did. 😳

The thread in the Clans forum got deleted. It contained the following Site Idea, which I believe was NOT the reason for the thread's deletion, so I will repost it here.

In the Clan Leagues, points scored by cheats in a season still in progress are not removed, even after the cheat gets banned. This should be changed ASAP.

Also, once the cheat is banned, all results of games against them should be set to 0 [again, for seasons-in-progress only], per the OP idea.

It can also makes the final table lop-sided.

The cheat beat 50% of the players and gets banned. Those who
have not finished - ie those who don't resign get the points.

People are going to get wise to this and you will get players never resigning
in case their opponent gets banned - these tournament could run forever.

Is there any technical reason a banned players pts score cannot be reversed?

We have all agreed to lose the grading points, so it's not about
grading points.

I cannot understand why a banned players score is NOT removed.

If it is technical I think we deserve an explanation - this total silence
is deafening.

Originally posted by greenpawn34
It can also makes the final table lop-sided.

The cheat beat 50% of the players and gets banned. Those who
have not finished - ie those who don't resign get the points.

People are going to get wise to this and you will get players never resigning
in case their opponent gets banned - these tournament could run forever.

Is there any technical rea ...[text shortened]... d.

If it is technical I think we deserve an explanation - this total silence
is deafening.

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I think this is the single most effective way to curb the influence of cheats in the clan leagues and big tournaments. No one's asking for tournaments to be reawarded after the winner is banned, or for their rating points back, or for their (lame) clan challenge points - just make it so that cheats don't steal points from legitimate players of the current tournament round / season or whatever. Plz.