...In the Greek Language, many words have several different meanings. This is nothing but a translation problem from Greek to English. The NT was first written in Greek; they are the oldest manuscripts of the NT.... etc. etc. etc. time and time again when it comes to interpreting the Bible.
So English translations are not "the word of God"? And the Bible is not divinely inspired as we find it in English?
If that is so, why aren't Christians all around the world required ~ by their God figure ~ to become fluent in Greek?
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...In the Greek Language, many words have several different meanings. This is nothing but a translation problem from Greek to English. The NT was first written in Greek; they are the oldest manuscripts of the NT.... etc. etc. etc. time and time again when it comes to interpreting the Bible.
So English translations are not "the word of God"? And the Bible is not divinely ...[text shortened]... y aren't Christians all around the world required ~ by their God figure ~ to become fluent in Greek?
If that is so, why aren't Christians all around the world required ~ by their God figure ~ to become fluent in Greek?
Because God likes to frustrate you daily; and, it is clearly working. π lol...
@kingdavid403 saidTake it like that if you wish.
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I think it's a legitimate thought exercise about Christian claims that their texts are divinely inspired and infallible
@kingdavid403 saidA genuine attempt at addressing the question would be more interesting.
If that is so, why aren't Christians all around the world required ~ by their God figure ~ to become fluent in Greek?
Because God likes to frustrate you daily; and, it is clearly working. π lol...
@fmf saidAncient Greek is already too late; ancient Hebrew would be necessary, as well as Aramaic, to correctly understand both the words reported as being directly from Jesus and the historical context in which he spoke them. Why? Because even the original Greek NT gets at least one critical bit wrong. (And now, of course, the Bible worshipping crowd demands to know which bit.)
...In the Greek Language, many words have several different meanings. This is nothing but a translation problem from Greek to English. The NT was first written in Greek; they are the oldest manuscripts of the NT.... etc. etc. etc. time and time again when it comes to interpreting the Bible.
So English translations are not "the word of God"? And the Bible is not divinely ...[text shortened]... y aren't Christians all around the world required ~ by their God figure ~ to become fluent in Greek?
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One of my sons went to College to become a minister. He was required to learn greek, and latin. He said it was very hard. The school required this. I personally don't think God requires us to do anything. As far as reading or understanding the Bible that is up to each person individually whether they want to or not. Also you can just read the bible, like a book. Or you can study the bible and everyone studies different. I used a lot of different commentaries to help me understand different things when I was trying to study. Now life is very hectic and I really only read and pray. I would myself never have time to learn greek, nor really the desire.
@boonon saidIs it your belief that the translation of the Bible [the one that you use] is divinely inspired?
As far as reading or understanding the Bible that is up to each person individually whether they want to or not. Also you can just read the bible, like a book. Or you can study the bible and everyone studies different. I used a lot of different commentaries to help me understand different things when I was trying to study.
@boonon saidDo you believe that the Greek words in the Greek version of the Bible were divinely inspired and infallible? And, in light of what moonbus said, what about the versions that use the Hebrew and Aramaic languages?
Do you mean that the english version of the bible that I read was divinely inspired from greek to english? No. Do I believe that the word of God was divinely inspired to man, then yes.
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...In the Greek Language, many words have several different meanings. This is nothing but a translation problem from Greek to English. The NT was first written in Greek; they are the oldest manuscripts of the NT.... etc. etc. etc. time and time again when it comes to interpreting the Bible.
So English translations are not "the word of God"? And the Bible is not divinely ...[text shortened]... y aren't Christians all around the world required ~ by their God figure ~ to become fluent in Greek?
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