@galveston75 saidI dont need to take any time, neither do I intend to get bogged down with your ridiculous nonsensical religion. I will not question what the bible says over and over and over. ... The Second Coming of Christ has been prophesied and described in great detail by the prophets.
@Rajk999
Hey Rajk. Let me ask you an honest question. Take your time but in your opinion, why do you think Jesus would need to come back to earth as a human in flesh and blood?
The fact that you continue to repeat Jesus coming back in flesh and blood means that you think that is relevant distinction. It makes no difference. Jesus is said to be coming back, regardless of how you think his form or nature is going to be ... its irrelevant.
@galveston75 saidI am happy to try to answer any questions you may have pertaining to bible issues. So far you have posted nothing worthy.. try again
@Rajk999 So you can't answer it...Ok I get it.
@Rajk999 saidOr perhaps your belief is just that strong in you that you can't or will not take the time to really look at what I'm showing through the scriptures. And it is always by scripture or even by other historical evidence that shows where many beliefs came from.
I am happy to try to answer any questions you may have pertaining to bible issues. So far you have posted nothing worthy.. try again
For instance the trinity belief came from the Babylonian empire, not the bible. The word is not even in it.
Now this is just an example. I don't remember if you do believe in the trinity but I'd guess you do. If not then don't be offended by my example.
The point is with just about every teaching that most churches teach, they are of pagan origins. Jehovah says he does not accept them, but yet many do regardless of historical proof, do.
I think this is your issue.....?
@galveston75 saidYou are writing utter rubbish.
Or perhaps your belief is just that strong in you that you can't or will not take the time to really look at what I'm showing through the scriptures. And it is always by scripture or even by other historical evidence that shows where many beliefs came from.
For instance the trinity belief came from the Babylonian empire, not the bible. The word is not even in it.
No ...[text shortened]... accept them, but yet many do regardless of historical proof, do.
I think this is your issue.....?
The Second Coming of Jesus Christ was foretold and spoken of, by literally dozens of people including Jesus himself.
You are the one that need to explain why it is you do not accept what is clearly stated in the bible.
@galveston75 saidDo you also want me to show where the bible says Jesus will come back in a blue jeans and T shirt?
@Rajk999
Show me (((( 1 ))))) scripture where is says that Jesus will come back in the flesh as human. I'll be waiting.
@galveston75 saidSo far you've dodged every request I've asked of you for quite awhile now on other subjects .Lets try this again.......
@Rajk999
So far you've dodged every request I've asked of you for quite awhile now on other subjects .Lets try this again.......
"Show me (((( 1 ))))) scripture where is says that Jesus will come back in the flesh as human. I'll be waiting."
"Show me (((( 1 ))))) scripture where is says that Jesus will come back in a blue jeans and a T shirt. I'll be waiting."
@Rajk999 saidOK. I see you have no proof of your beliefs which you should if what you say is a bible truth and now your just getting silly.
So far you've dodged every request I've asked of you for quite awhile now on other subjects .Lets try this again.......
"Show me (((( 1 ))))) scripture where is says that Jesus will come back in a blue jeans and a T shirt. I'll be waiting."
@galveston75 saidThe bible said Jesus will return, dozens of times.
OK. I see you have no proof of your beliefs which you should if what you say is a bible truth and now your just getting silly.
You say Jesus will not return as a human. You need proof that the bible .. says that Jesus will come back in the flesh as human
Something is sadly wrong with your brain. Who said that Jesus will return as a human with flesh and blood. Why do I need to prove something the bible does not say, and more weird, why are you changing what the bible says about Jesus's Second Coming.
You think you have won the argument by adding in this flesh and human business, and then claiming I cannot find such a verse.
You JWs are weirdos.
@Rajk999
"says that Jesus will come back in the flesh as human" Where is that scripture I keep asking you for?
You see the point you miss is the Bible not once says he will be flesh again which would make him a human....again. If he would actually be human again think of the implications, like maybe he could be killed again like happened once before?
If his actual throne were to be here....where would it be?
Would he have angels helping him with his actions? Remember angels are spirit beings not flesh so would we see them too?
Anyway the bible says this: (Matt 24:3) "While he was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples approached him privately, saying: “Tell us, when will these things be, and what will be the "sign of your presence" and of the conclusion of the system of things?”
No do you see what this says? What did his disciples ask? It was 3 things. What was the second question? Every bible on earth ask this same question.... They ask what will be the "sign of your presence?"
What? What did they ask? Did they ask "when will you be here in person?" As in flesh and blood?
Nope they didn't. They didn't ask what kind of home would you like us to build you? They didn't ask what kind of horse would you like, or what color cloths would you want made for you?
They asked no such questions ........
They asked what would be the "signs of your presence". They needed to know the signs or affects or something to let them know he was here because they would not be able to SEE him.
Read what the bible actually says and you will learn....
Also the Bible clearly says that Jesus's throne is at the right hand of his Father Jehovah's throne. Where would that happen to be? Heaven.......
@galveston75 saidWhat ??? !!!
You see the point you miss is the Bible not once says he will be flesh again which would make him a human....again.
Why is this important to you?
Why does Jesus have to be human again?
You really are nuts.
@galveston75 saidWrong again. That is the wording of YOUR BIBLE .. ie the one the Watchtower translated, or more correctly mistranslated to suit your doctrine. It is a deceitful practice to put it mildly. Here is what the KJV says:
Anyway the bible says this: (Matt 24:3) "While he was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples approached him privately, saying: “Tell us, when will these things be, and what will be the "sign of your presence" and of the conclusion of the system of things?”
And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world? (Mat 24:3 KJV)
In the JW translation : ... "sign of your presence"
In the True Bible : " sign of thy coming, "
Back in the early 1900s the JWs failed at forecasting the return of Christ. many false dates were prophesied. They all failed. Finally, Charles Russel decided to proclaim that Jesus is not coming back in the flesh, but instead his presence will be felt. But to do this he needed to change the wording of the bible.
Why are you people so devious and crooked?
@galveston75 saidAll over the writings of the Prophets in the Bible, it is clearly said that Jesus is going to sit on Davids throne, and rule the Earth from Jerusalem. These references are too numerous to mention. There is one where in the last days Jesus will return and stand on Mt Olives. Your entire analysis of these events is faulty, and the fact that the JWs needed to change the wording of the bible so that their doctrine gets biblical support says something about your integrity as a religious sect.
Also the Bible clearly says that Jesus's throne is at the right hand of his Father Jehovah's throne. Where would that happen to be? Heaven.......
So Jesus has a throne next to his Father in heaven, and one on Earth in Jerusalem. Its not rocket science and the fact that you cannot understand that Jesus can have two thrones, one in heaven and one on Earth, means your brain is not wired properly.