Originally posted by karoly aczelBut are they even a 'good idea' (as opposed to perfect or optimal)? It seems to me, in a design sense, as good an idea as packing a bridge with dynamite with the assumption it will never detonate.
P'haps "intelligent design" isn't perfect. I think some christians imply that "Gods" work is perfect, but it may well just be good intstead of necessarily perfect.
I've got a couple of menacing looking wisdom teeth having a mosey around my mouth right now - and if they elect to get a better view, the little bastids are going to bully my entire bottom row! one of the x-rays looks like:
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Just to address this point seriously, I think I will just point out that 667joe has misrepresented what theists generally mean if they talk about intelligent design. Intelligent design does not entail that every part of a creature has been designed for maximal utility. It may turn out that aliquo mutato, man would function better (i.e. if he had third molars.) Intelligent design as a scientific hypothesis simply claims that some stages of evolution are not explicable in purely materialistic theory, that is, some biological features are 'functionally complex'. Perhaps God could have made man better but this isn't really the point of intelligent design (and, anyway, Christianity which affirms that death occurred as a result of sin, isn't committed to the idea that man must be perfect; perfection was taken away as a result of sin.)
Originally posted by karoly aczelGod made them perfect all right, its that we disobeyed God and did
P'haps "intelligent design" isn't perfect. I think some christians imply that "Gods" work is perfect, but it may well just be good intstead of necessarily perfect.
not keep them perfect. Why do you blame God for something you did?
Do your part and go to the dentist and take your kids often. That
will help a little, even though, we have already done the damage.
Originally posted by Conrau Kand, anyway, Christianity which affirms that death occurred as a result of sin, isn't committed to the idea that man must be perfect; perfection was taken away as a result of sin
Just to address this point seriously, I think I will just point out that 667joe has misrepresented what theists generally mean if they talk about intelligent design. Intelligent design does not entail that every part of a creature has been designed for maximal utility. It may turn out that aliquo mutato, man would function better (i.e. if he had thir mmitted to the idea that man must be perfect; perfection was taken away as a result of sin.)
I might be mistaken here but don't they affirm that we fail to be perfect in a moralistic sense as opposed to a mechanical sense? Moreover may of the theists that I converse with on these boards will not even acknowledge that any component of God's designs could be sub-optimal (or that it's characteristics could be sub-perfect)
sorry, couldn't parse the meaning, even in context, behind aliquo mutato, specifically the "aliquo" part (I can guess mutato is mutation or change)...neither google translate or search are any use