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    If those people in those other 3999 religions are destined to go to hell for never hearing about JC and the boys, why would a god do that? Why would it set up a hell in the first place? Like humans setting up a magnifying glass focusing the sun's rays on individual ants, just enough to cause misery but not enough to kill, but over and over and over again. That is exactly what christian theists think your god will do to unbelievers. Just what would that gain a god in the first place? It gets its jollys off listening to the screams?

    Doesn't that seem a bit preposterous?

    It is such an arrogant stance that we would mean so much to a god as to require some of us to live in agony till the end of time. Just another stupid tale from the Abrahamic religions.
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    09 Jul '14 17:21
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    If those people in those other 3999 religions are destined to go to hell for never hearing about JC and the boys, why would a god do that? Why would it set up a hell in the first place? Like humans setting up a magnifying glass focusing the sun's rays on individual ants, just enough to cause misery but not enough to kill, but over and over and over again. T ...[text shortened]... us to live in agony till the end of time. Just another stupid tale from the Abrahamic religions.
    As per theism 101 simply

    1) Define "God" to be perfectly holy (whatever the f!#% that means!)
    2) Define "God"'s actions to be perfectly moral and just (don't worry about cheapening the notions of morality and justice)
    3) Define "God" to be loving (and re-state this definition upon any reminder that "He" has a penchant for slaughter and torture)

    and all is resolved ๐Ÿ˜ž
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    09 Jul '14 21:26
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    If those people in those other 3999 religions are destined to go to hell for never hearing about JC and the boys, why would a god do that? Why would it set up a hell in the first place? Like humans setting up a magnifying glass focusing the sun's rays on individual ants, just enough to cause misery but not enough to kill, but over and over and over again. T ...[text shortened]... us to live in agony till the end of time. Just another stupid tale from the Abrahamic religions.
    I will answer you questions. But first ... a musical interlude just for you sonhouse.

    The Comforter Has Come.

    YouTube
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    09 Jul '14 23:16
    What gargantuan ignorance and incorrect assumption.
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    09 Jul '14 23:491 edit
    Originally posted by sonship
    I will answer you questions. But first ... a musical interlude just for you sonhouse.

    [b] The Comforter Has Come.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MU98khZAz2g[/b]
    Nice music, even if it is about mattresses๐Ÿ™‚

    It reminds me of my friend Allen who sang like that, RIP. He accidentally threw his own mom down a flight of stairs and she died and he felt so bad he blew his head off with a shotgun. He was a great singer and an encyclopedia of folk music.

    They seem so be having a good time. I thought it was shape note singing at first but they are just having a good time.
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    10 Jul '14 00:101 edit
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    Nice music, even if it is about mattresses๐Ÿ™‚

    It reminds me of my friend Allen who sang like that, RIP. He accidentally threw his own mom down a flight of stairs and she died and he felt so bad he blew his head off with a shotgun. He was a great singer and an encyclopedia of folk music.

    They seem so be having a good time. I thought it was shape note singing at first but they are just having a good time.
    I didn't really care for it.

    I like this one better:

    YouTube
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    10 Jul '14 00:10
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    Nice music, even if it is about mattresses๐Ÿ™‚

    It reminds me of my friend Allen who sang like that, RIP. He accidentally threw his own mom down a flight of stairs and she died and he felt so bad he blew his head off with a shotgun. He was a great singer and an encyclopedia of folk music.

    They seem so be having a good time. I thought it was shape note singing at first but they are just having a good time.
    Sonhouse, that has to be one of the more tragic things I've ever heard.

    I will pray for your friend Allen, if you don't mind. (Yes, I'm asking permission.)
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    10 Jul '14 00:391 edit
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    Sonhouse, that has to be one of the more tragic things I've ever heard.

    I will pray for your friend Allen, if you don't mind. (Yes, I'm asking permission.)
    Sure, any time. A bit late though. He was a good friend. His wife had a great voice also. He had an incredible vinyl collection, literally thousands. I have 2000 of my own but his was ten times that, all folk music from the 50's to the 80's from around the world. Irish, Madagascar, Egypt, you name it, he had it.
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    10 Jul '14 00:411 edit
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    I didn't really care for it.

    I like this one better:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=414dGGTedpM
    I would MUCH rather listen to the comfort singers anytime. They are actually having a good time. Your singers are on valium.

    One thing I would like to hear, the giant Islam book of hymnals.
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    10 Jul '14 00:57
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    I would MUCH rather listen to the comfort singers anytime. They are actually having a good time. Your singers are on valium.

    One thing I would like to hear, the giant Islam book of hymnals.
    How do you know they are not faking it?
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    10 Jul '14 03:181 edit
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    If those people in those other 3999 religions are destined to go to hell for never hearing about JC and the boys, why would a god do that? Why would it set up a hell in the first place? Like humans setting up a magnifying glass focusing the sun's rays on individual ants, just enough to cause misery but not enough to kill, but over and over and over again. T ...[text shortened]... us to live in agony till the end of time. Just another stupid tale from the Abrahamic religions.
    You already know where i stand on this.

    It is compassion, charity of heart, and love that the whole of God is. Anyone practicing the same should have no fear.

    Those who seek only for themselves - greed, primarily, are in trouble.

    Hell, you don't understand it. We send ourselves there - free will.
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    10 Jul '14 07:37
    Hi sonhouse,

    Five questions in yr OP? Isn't that a bit excessive? Why not pick one and let's run with it?

    Do you know that atheism is just another one of the 4000+ Religions? And why do you think that yours is any better than RJH's?

    Enough questions for you?

    ๐Ÿ˜€
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    10 Jul '14 07:461 edit
    Originally posted by CalJust
    Hi sonhouse,

    Five questions in yr OP? Isn't that a bit excessive? Why not pick one and let's run with it?

    Do you know that atheism is just another one of the 4000+ Religions? And why do you think that yours is any better than RJH's?

    Enough questions for you?

    ๐Ÿ˜€
    I bet I know his answer to that last one.

    He believes his religion allows him to think for himself and do what he thinks is right or wrong in his own mind and he is not threatened with the lake of fire or any other punishment after death..
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    10 Jul '14 08:363 edits
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    .... he is not threatened with the lake of fire or any other punishment after death..
    Neither am I

    As I told you before, that is a despicable, revolting and unbiblical doctrine that insults God.

    But we've been through all that several times. You are welcome to your paranoia and threats to the unwary.
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    10 Jul '14 10:26
    Originally posted by CalJust
    Neither am I

    As I told you before, that is a despicable, revolting and unbiblical doctrine that insults God.

    But we've been through all that several times. You are welcome to your paranoia and threats to the unwary.
    "...a despicable, revolting and unbiblical doctrine that insults God."

    How do you figure? It seems to me that it is YOUR doctrine that is despicable and revolting and insults God since it clearly contradicts what is said in the Word of God.


    Revelation 19:20
    And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

    Rev.20:10
    And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet [are], and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

    Rev. 20:12-15
    And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is [the book] of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
    And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
    And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
    And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
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