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Universally true means it applies to all people, and not just a select few.


Originally posted by FMF
I have disagreed - sometimes strenuously so ~ with more people on these forums than the number of days you have been a member of RHP and it's done me (or them) no harm whatsoever. Don't overestimate the traction or import of your own antics. I am asking not about you disagreeing with me but about your obvious interpersonal and intellectual problems which are evi ...[text shortened]... as the reason/excuse for your behaviour. Is it not the excuse you are currently inclined to use?
Ah same old tactic when you can't deal with a person's argument or position you insult them.

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I have never claimed that all my beliefs are universally true. Some of my beliefs I have to assume are universally true. Else they wouldn't make sense, because for example the belief, "Jesus died on the cross" and the belief, "Jesus didn't die on the cross" can't both be true.

It seem's that under FMFs tutelage you have also learnt to insult people when you disagree with them.

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Originally posted by FMF
The reason you don't agree with me is because we have markedly different beliefs.

That aside, would you describe yourself as "psychologically abused" by the cult you said you finally managed to "escape" from, but only after (allegedly) 24 years?
You just can't help yourself can you? You always have to throw in an insult while you're at it.


Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
You just can't help yourself can you? You always have to throw in an insult while you're at it.
Like I said, the reason you don't agree with me is because we have markedly different beliefs. The question about what damage was done to you when you were (allegedly) in a cult is in reference to your behaviour and not in reference to the fact we disagree with each other.

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Originally posted by FMF
Like I said, the reason you don't agree with me is because we have markedly different beliefs. The question about what damage was done to you when you were (allegedly) in a cult is in reference to your behaviour and not in reference to the fact we disagree with each other.
That's fine. Tell yourself what you want.




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There are obviously universal truths that apply to us and not to God, for example one day we are all going to die.

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Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
There are obviously universal truths that apply to us and not to God, for example one day we are all going to die.
Who says your god figure isn't going to die?

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Divegeester, since this thread has your name I have a question for you.

First a little backround. Now you really seem not to want to explain how the Father and the Son are the Divine "We" in John 14. And you don't seem to want to explain the plural pronoun "Us" in John 17.

Have you considered also that Jesus strongly indicated that He and the Father were "two" as well as one?

First we see that He and His Father are one:

" I and the Father are one." (John 10:40)


But consider John 8:17,18

"And in your law also it has been written that the testimony of two men is true:

I am One who testifies concerning Myself, and the Father who sent Me testifies concerning Me." (John 8:17,18)


Based on this passage am I justified to believe that the Father and the Son are "one" and the Father and the Son are also "two" ?

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Would you care to quote the exact text where I claimed my beliefs are universally true? I have only brought up the concept of universal truth when someone claimed that two contradictory beliefs are true. In other words if I believe that Christianity is true I can't also believe that all other religions are true because they make contradictory claims.


Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Would you care to quote the exact text where I claimed my beliefs are universally true?
He thinks you are a troll. Why would he bother?


Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Would you care to quote the exact text where I claimed my beliefs are universally true? I have only brought up the concept of universal truth when someone claimed that two contradictory beliefs are true. In other words if I believe that Christianity is true I can't also believe that all other religions are true because they make contradictory claims.
I have not claimed that your beliefs are "universally true". divegeester has not claimed that your beliefs are "universally true". Ghost of a Duke has not claimed that your beliefs are "universally true". avalanchethecat has not claimed that your beliefs are "universally true". And now you are saying that you are not claiming that your beliefs are "universally true". So what is the issue for you? You are very, very, very sure that Christianity is "true" and that other religions are "not true" ~ is that what you're on about?