Originally posted by Ghost of a DukeIt's a new day.
In this thread alone sir it is possible to witness your embarrassing decent into drunkenness:
At 21:19pm you actually post something quite witty, but around this time pop open your particular brand of poison.
By 03:25am you are posting "Are you mocking me? Doesn't matter. Just like America has put Iran "On Notice", I am putting atheists "On Not ...[text shortened]... e rug) you somehow manage to type "Moron. You could not be more wrong."
How's the hangover?
I want proof that life came from nothing. That life is a result of an accident.
Origin of life.
Originally posted by chaney3After your drunken antics in the early hours, why do you deserve anyone's time in explaining things to you?
It's a new day.
I want proof that life came from nothing. That life is a result of an accident.
Origin of life.
By all means though, link to where someone has said life was the result of an accident.
Originally posted by Ghost of a DukeIf you are backtracking and saying that life is not an accident, then certaintly life is 'on purpose'.
After your drunken antics in the early hours, why do you deserve anyone's time in explaining things to you?
By all means though, link to where someone has said life was the result of an accident.
This contradicts atheism.
Originally posted by chaney3How can I backtrack from something i have never stated?
If you are backtracking and saying that life is not an accident, then certaintly life is 'on purpose'.
This contradicts atheism.
On the origin of life question I have openly said "I don't know." (But this doesn't mean I accept your superstitious nonsense).
Originally posted by Ghost of a DukeAnd as I said in the other thread, you are taking your "I don't know" to extreme assumptions by implying evolution had a purpose.
How can I backtrack from something i have never stated?
On the origin of life question I have openly said "I don't know." (But this doesn't mean I accept your superstitious nonsense).
Only intellect can produce purpose.
Originally posted by Ghost of a Dukeyes he does , out with it you bad ol putty cat!
After your drunken antics in the early hours, why do you deserve anyone's time in explaining things to you?
By all means though, link to where someone has said life was the result of an accident.
Life from no life in a pre organic soup, how did it happen? First of all you need a reducing atmosphere, then you need the amino acids to arrange themselves in the correct order for the sequencing of proteins. How'd it happen? Are you aware of the mathematical improbability? Its like finding a fully functional jumbo jet in a junk yard! fabricated all by itself! I'd say it takes a greater leap of faith to believe that than it does to believe in an intelligent designer.
Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
If I believe Jesus died on a cross and you believe he didn't, then our beliefs can't both be true, since he either died on the cross or he didn't. Historians would seem to support my belief in this case.
Originally posted by FMF
"That Jesus was executed in this way for sedition is of no particular surprise."
How do you know Jesus was crucified for sedition?
Originally posted by josephwI don't "know" it to be so. If it was the Romans who executed him, then it would presumably have been for sedition; if it was the Jews who carried out the death penalty, as they were permitted to by the Romans at around the time Jesus is thought to have lived (and died) (although it was only permitted against fellow Jews and only for religious reasons), then presumably it was for blasphemy.
How do you know Jesus was crucified for sedition?
I am inclined to think that it was the 'judicial killing' (for one reason or the other) of the charismatic maverick rabbi that led to the cult of personality that then grew in the subsequent decades and centuries, fuelled by supernatural theories and explanations written by adherents to the burgeoning breakaway religion.
Both the Romans and the Jews executed loads of people during those times. The Jews however would have stoned Jesus to death, so perhaps - having failed to make a charge of blasphemy stick, a charge of sedition was cobbled together (a political crime) and so the Romans crucified him. Who knows?
Indeed, I doubt we will ever know for sure. There is not a scrap of primary historical source material dating from the time Jesus lived, so the whole episode is swaddled in conjecture and superstition.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieTo begin with sir, 'I don't know' how life began on Earth. I think it's important to start there as it shows straight from the bat that I acknowledge 'not knowing,' as opposed to yourself, Robbie Carrobie, 'making stuff up.' Secondly, I genuinely understand why you feel the need to make stuff up. It's scary not to know the answers,...to admit 'not knowing.'
yes he does , out with it you bad ol putty cat!
Life from no life in a pre organic soup, how did it happen? First of all you need a reducing atmosphere, then you need the amino acids to arrange themselves in the correct order for the sequencing of proteins. How'd it happen? Are you aware of the mathematical improbability? Its like finding a full ...[text shortened]... akes a greater leap of faith to believe that than it does to believe in an intelligent designer.
I think, while on this site I have heard 3 people mention pre organic soup; none of them atheists, all of them Christians. Why you have this fascination with soup I can't say, perhaps you work for Campbells? - I agree that the 'creation' of life is mathematically improbable, but then so is winning the lottery or me existing today as an individual (both of which have occurred). The universe is so darn massive that mathematically improbable is 'sufficient' for life to spring up somewhere. If not on this planet, then somewhere else out there in the cosmos. Indeed, life starting may seem improbable by our own understanding, but commonplace in the universe due to the enormous scale we are talking about. - And to be honest old chap your comparison to finding a fully functioning jumbo jet is embarrassing and I would really urge you to drop it from your repertoire. I could make equally ridiculous statements about design, but that doesn't really get us anywhere. Be a man Mr Carrobie and take time to contemplate the power of probability in a universe even bigger than your ego.