Originally posted by usmc7257
Please post any further reponses to our conversation in the homosexuality thread here, as it was not fair of us to continue along our line of conversation in that thread.
Jaywill, you are more than welcome to repsond to the last post directed at you. I assume you went to bed and didn't ignore me to avoid spirited conversation. I am going to bed soon as w ...[text shortened]... lease stay out of this thread since nothing you can possibly say will make any sense to anyone.
Does this thread continue the topic that included a reference to the Wizard of Oz and the man behind the curtain? If so, I have a link that goes into a little detail on that topic and includes a story about Daniel. If not, please ignore. Please note that this is not so much a knock on theism per se, as it is a knock on organized religion and idol worship. I won't dare to say this accurately represents what you had in mind.
To me, The Wizard of Oz is the Greatest Story Ever Told. “There’s no place like home” dammit.
I especially love the ending, when Toto unceremoniously yanks back the curtain to reveal the scam of the carnival huckster. Apparently Toto was fed up with all the whining and cowering of his companions, so he blew the whistle on the deal.
“Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!,” the big-headed apparition bellows, but it is much too late. Dorothy and friends have already seen too much. The “Wizard” is nothing but an old man. A “humbug”, the Scarecrow calls him. They are disgusted and disappointed, and rightly so. All that bowing, scraping and serving – all of that WORSHIP – and it was all for nothing. A lousy trick.
Sound familiar? It should. How can a working, rational mind fail to see the corollary between this scene of revelation and how religion works in our world? How can you NOT see “the man behind the curtain”? What will you do now? Close your eyes and pretend you didn’t see him? Would that be very wise?
Ironically, however, The Wizard of Oz is not the first fable to use this story telling mechanism to expose a religious scam.
Some of you might be familiar with a forbidden book called the Apocrypha. (So named by St. Jerome. It means lost books. But they aren’t lost, just hidden from view. And with good reason, as I shall demonstrate.) Within the pages of this volume of Jewish lore is a book of Daniel titled Bel and the Dragon. Here is an on-line copy for your enjoyment at "http://www.earlyjewishwritings.com/bel.html".
In short the story goes like this:
Daniel (Yes, THAT Daniel.) is at it once again in the nation of Persia. Cyrus is King now, and as usual there is god/idol worship afoot and Daniel isn’t happy about it.
The priests of Bel claim that their statue is The Living God and they can prove it, because THEIR god eats! Daniel vehemently disagrees and of course is called out for blasphemy. King Cyrus is ready to kill SOMEBODY, so someone had better prove their case quickly.
So Daniel, ever the clever lad, cooks up a scheme. He has King Cyrus lay out all the food before the statue of Bel, as is his norm. Everyone is ushered out of the temple, leaving just the King and Daniel. Daniel then has ashes strewn all about the temple floor in the presence of the King. They then back out of the temple and all of the doors are sealed with the signet of the King.
During the night, as is their devious habit, the priests and their families enter the temple through some secret passage and they consume all the food left for Bel.
In the morning, the King and Daniel arrive. They find the seals unbroken. The doors are opened and the King marvels that the food has been consumed by Bel. But Daniel simply laughs and directs King Cyrus’ gaze down to the temple floor where the multitude of human foot prints of men, women and children have been trekked through the ashes.
King Cyrus is livid and as is always the case in these “holy” fables, Cyrus has the priests and their families executed and the statue of Bel destroyed.