05 Nov 09
Originally posted by josephwWell It could be likened to wearing an electric chair around your neck. (Some wear crosses) However if you believe in Christ then as contradictory as it may seem we should rejoice in the fact the God provided the perfect sacrifice for us in this cruel way. I think cruel by the way comes from the root word for crucify. Just like excruciating is another word that has it's root in crucify. It was a torture used for bad criminals!
The SIGN of LIFE is a Bloody Cruel Instrument of Torture and Death.
The Cross of Calvary.
What do you think of that idea?
Manny
05 Nov 09
Originally posted by josephwThe whole crucifixion thing is all symbolic.
The SIGN of LIFE is a Bloody Cruel Instrument of Torture and Death.
The Cross of Calvary.
What do you think of that idea?
It also highlights the fact that Christians generally do not distinguish between the various meanings of 'life' and 'death' that they use and thus cause endless confusion when talking about them. Its time they invented some new words to make it clearer (but then that might make the flaws in the whole thing more obvious).
05 Nov 09
Originally posted by josephwand as sharpe mother said, communism and nazism are death and torture organizations that have fluffy nice symbols. (hammer and sickle: factories and agriculture, very good, zvastika: tibetan symbol of life or something else that is equally fluffy)
The SIGN of LIFE is a Bloody Cruel Instrument of Torture and Death.
The Cross of Calvary.
What do you think of that idea?
symbols have as much meaning as we assign them. no more, no less.
05 Nov 09
Originally posted by Bosse de NageThe concept that salvation comes through the death and resurrection of Jesus is barbarous. If its practitioners could divest themselves of that noxious myth then it would go a long way to lessening their predisposition toward barbarism.
Christianity is a classical religion. It may or may not be cruel as well, depending on the barbarism of its practitioners.
05 Nov 09
Originally posted by rwingettReminds me of that Lennon line, 'God is a concept by which we measure our pain'.
The concept that salvation comes through the death and resurrection of Jesus is barbarous. If its practitioners could divest themselves of that noxious myth then it would go a long way to lessening their predisposition toward barbarism.
I'm just pointing out that you're using 'barbarous' anachronistically. Xtianity was largely a Hellenistic affair, philosophically, not something dreamt up by barbarians (although the Ostrogoths were Arians, just like Newton). So 'cruel' is more fitting, and cutting, I think. Christianity, the religion in which God tortures himself to relieve his sense of guilt.
05 Nov 09
Originally posted by josephwI think that Calvary Cross was used thousands of years before the rising of the reformed Judaism known as Christian religion; we see the Calvary Cross in Egypt (on the breasts of mummies, suspended around the necks of the sacred serpents, and more importantly as an object on which Typhon is chained: Typhon, an aspect of Osiris, was considered by the Egyptians the ideation of the personified universe whilst Typhon was the same universe in its material realization -therefore the concept Osiris-Typhon is identical to the concept Vishnu-Siva), in Greece, in Babylon, in India, in China, in Mexico and in Peru, and it is simply a cosmic and a phallic symbol.
The SIGN of LIFE is a Bloody Cruel Instrument of Torture and Death.
The Cross of Calvary.
What do you think of that idea?
The “T” cross is the most ancient of all the forms of the cross, whilst the cross with a handle is spotted in the hands of Baal, Astarte and many other gods. The cross of St. Philip is Anoukis’ ankh. Constantine’s Labarum is an ancient Etrurian emblem that was based on Osiris’ sign, and the long Latin cross is a sign of Horus
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