@petewxyz saidThis is supposed to be, in some way, an analogy for religious belief?
If I say that I am in fact severely anorexic almost all the time other than when I am eating, I imagine you might feel that for the label to be properly used I would need to be somebody who stopped eating rather longer than the intervals between meals. Even if I stopped eating for a few days you might deem the label misplaced if there were extreme circumstances to explain the behavioural change such as being on my deathbed?
@fmf saidYou are now transgressing a boundary that I have made around a personal matter. I am surprised that you would do that and tell somebody that they 'should elaborate' about a personal and emotional issue after they have made their limits clear. This does not make me feel I am in a conversation with somebody with the relevant ethics for the subject matter so I will leave.
I think it is relevant and you should elaborate. You did not appear to be describing a "religious conversion on the deathbed" at all. Like BigDoggProblem suggested, it seems you do not know what religious faith is. You were describing something different... "believing any old thing on the deathbed ... because there is no god watching". How is this a "conversion"?
@petewxyz saidYou offered an example of "religious conversion on the deathbed" but it seems pretty clear it is nothing of the sort.
You are now transgressing a boundary that I have made around a personal matter. I am surprised that you would do that and tell somebody that they 'should elaborate' about a personal and emotional issue after they have made their limits clear. This does not make me feel I am in a conversation with somebody with the relevant ethics for the subject matter so I will leave.
This is what you posted:
Because the question of 'why?' doesn't really work if the purpose of the sentence was to illustrate the thesis I was putting forward, that atheism would really make what you say or do at the end irrelevant since it can have no implications for what is to come if there is in fact nothing else to come. I.e. doing, saying and believing any old thing on the deathbed is compatible with a preceding life of atheism, since you might just as well think and believe whatever gives you comfort and security. There is no god watching or listening and planning which floor of hell you get and whether you get a sea view or a balcony based on whatever thoughts you allow to comfort your mind.
It's just a really poor example.
How is asking you about it "transgressing a boundary"?
@petewxyz saidYou have not experienced the third degree interrogation tactics by FMF before? You better steer clear of this persona because it will relentlessly continue to pry into you as long as you respond it.
You are now transgressing a boundary that I have made around a personal matter. I am surprised that you would do that and tell somebody that they 'should elaborate' about a personal and emotional issue after they have made their limits clear. This does not make me feel I am in a conversation with somebody with the relevant ethics for the subject matter so I will leave.
-Removed-Not only a fair point but the whole point I was making. The other rather clumsy sentence was to illustrate the point by saying that apparent deathbed conversion may well simply be symptomatic of the person truly still being an atheist.
I shall have to chose my words more carefully but perhaps feeling like I am back at work isn't something I seek and I have misunderstood the function of social media. I seem to be looking for a conversation in the pub which is thankfully returning. Asking people their favourite colour over a beer.
@petewxyz saidWell, you found a friend in Kegge. He may not want to talk about people's favourite colour but he does seem to want talk about people masturbating. So, look on the bright side.
I shall have to chose my words more carefully but perhaps feeling like I am back at work isn't something I seek and I have misunderstood the function of social media. I seem to be looking for a conversation in the pub which is thankfully returning. Asking people their favourite colour over a beer.
@fmf saidLooks like Kegge and me also don't always pick the best language whilst making valid observations, this could work.
Well, you found a friend in Kegge. He may not want to talk about people's favourite colour but he does seem to want talk about people masturbating. So, look on the bright side.
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@petewxyz saidThe way I see it, I don't think you made any valid observations. You don't seem to know what religious belief is. You don't seem to know what atheism is. You don't seem to know what religious conversion is. And it's not clear you know what "ethics" means. So. There we have it. One last thing. What IS your favourite colour?
Looks like Kegge and me also don't always pick the best language whilst making valid observations, this could work.
@fmf saidI think you also probably believe your observations are valid. I would imagine with great certainty.
The way I see it, I don't think you made any valid observations. You don't seem to know what religious belief is. You don't seem to know what atheism is. You don't seem to know what religious conversion is. And it's not clear you know what "ethics" means. So. There we have it. One last thing. What IS your favourite colour?
It was divegeester who introduced favourite colours, ask him.