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    How many here have had actual contact with a god or YOUR god?

    All you have is ancient mythology with no link to reality.
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    17 Apr '14 16:32
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    How many here have had actual contact with a god or YOUR god?

    All you have is ancient mythology with no link to reality.
    you dont think Jesus was real? What about Pontious Pilate or Alexander the great?
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    17 Apr '14 17:26
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    you dont think Jesus was real? What about Pontious Pilate or Alexander the great?
    Pilate or big Al, supernatural? JC supernatural? Don't think so. I think he was a great salesman. 'Trust me, I am the son of god'. Sure, it fooled a lot of people but that is just an indication of the state of the intelligence of the human race. Look at David Koresh. HE thought he was divine or some such.
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    17 Apr '14 17:322 edits
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    Pilate or big Al, supernatural? JC supernatural? Don't think so. I think he was a great salesman. 'Trust me, I am the son of god'. Sure, it fooled a lot of people but that is just an indication of the state of the intelligence of the human race. Look at David Koresh. HE thought he was divine or some such.
    no my friend your assertion was and I quote, 'all you have is ancient mythology with no link to reality', therefore we shall ask you once again, was Jesus real? was Solomon real? what about King David, were he real?
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    17 Apr '14 18:45
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    you dont think Jesus was real? What about Pontious Pilate or Alexander the great?
    I thought JW's don't believe Jesus was God?!
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    17 Apr '14 19:591 edit
    Originally posted by SwissGambit
    I thought JW's don't believe Jesus was God?!
    We dont, we believe that he was a divine being, the only entity directly created by God, hence the term, 'only begotten son'. All other things having been created through him.
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    17 Apr '14 20:31
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    We dont, we believe that he was a divine being, the only entity directly created by God, hence the term, 'only begotten son'. All other things having been created through him.
    created or begotten? Make up your mind.
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    17 Apr '14 20:51
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    created or begotten? Make up your mind.
    Perhaps you will explain the difference between procreating and begetting?
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    17 Apr '14 21:10
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    no my friend your assertion was and I quote, 'all you have is ancient mythology with no link to reality', therefore we shall ask you once again, was Jesus real? was Solomon real? what about King David, were he real?
    They may have been real, they could also have been just made up, all of them. You have to have more evidence than just the bible, archaeological evidence as well.
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    17 Apr '14 21:48
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    you dont think Jesus was real? What about Pontious Pilate or Alexander the great?
    Hmmm, Alexander the Great is also claimed historically to have been born of a virgin.
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    Originally posted by caissad4
    Hmmm, Alexander the Great is also claimed historically to have been born of a virgin.
    He was killed by a Pakistani mosquito, nuff said about him!
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    17 Apr '14 21:55
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    They may have been real, they could also have been just made up, all of them. You have to have more evidence than just the bible, archaeological evidence as well.
    really, they could have just been made up? and here you are talking about reality, wow.
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    Originally posted by caissad4
    Hmmm, Alexander the Great is also claimed historically to have been born of a virgin.
    However, Alexander the Great failed to rise from the dead to prove anything. He stayed dead to prove he was just another man. No claim is made of him ascending to heaven. However, Jesus even took a picture of His resurrection, the Shroud of Turin, to prove He was crucified and rose from the dead. The tomb is still empty and His bones are nowhere to be found.
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    18 Apr '14 02:42
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    created or begotten? Make up your mind.

    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    Perhaps you will explain the difference between procreating and begetting?
    Why did you suddenly change the word Suzianne used ~ "created"/"creating" ~ to "procreated"/"procreating"? Presumably you did it on purpose? Mentioning two words that are not exact synonyms, she said "Created or begotten? Make up your mind." And then you changed one of the words to a synonym of "begetting" in your reply, asking for the difference between the two synonyms "procreating and begetting". Why?
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    18 Apr '14 18:09
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    However, Alexander the Great failed to rise from the dead to prove anything. He stayed dead to prove he was just another man. No claim is made of him ascending to heaven. However, Jesus even took a picture of His resurrection, the Shroud of Turin, to prove He was crucified and rose from the dead. The tomb is still empty and His bones are nowhere to be found.
    You can believe that the rest of your life but it won't make the myth come true.

    If JC was a god, it seems to me it could have made a better image than that stupid shroud.
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