Spirituality
18 Sep 05
18 Sep 05
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...no pun intended. What came first, the priest or the pedophile?
There are numerous reports of this type of abhorrent behaviour. I'd suggest if someone were to compile the numbers, there would be a higher percentage of accused or convicted molesters within the clergy than any other single occupation...even Ratzinger finds himself asking Bush for immunity in some case in Texas or Ohio that he tried to have hushed up.
Is it a case of a pedophiles looking for a position that gives them access to their targets, or a case of a holy men gone bad? And if the latter...what gives? Is this somehow a leftover from ancient Roman culture that accepted pederastry as normal?
18 Sep 05
Originally posted by David CIt's sin. Those of the ministry are as weak as anyone else. Just as other sinners, they believe that GOD understands their sin and the reason for the sin. They also believe that because of their weakness GOD, forgives that sin.
...no pun intended. What came first, the priest or the pedophile?
There are numerous reports of this type of abhorrent behaviour. I'd suggest if someone were to compile the numbers, there would be a higher percentage of accused or convicted molesters within the clergy than any other single occupation...even Ratzinger finds himself asking Bush for immunit ...[text shortened]... gives? Is this somehow a leftover from ancient Roman culture that accepted pederastry as normal?
18 Sep 05
Originally posted by David CDavie, what's your case? Is pedophilia a favourite Christian past-time? It's blatantly and repeatedly condemned - and should be by the church and population.
...no pun intended. What came first, the priest or the pedophile?
There are numerous reports of this type of abhorrent behaviour. I'd suggest if someone were to compile the numbers, there would be a higher percentage of accused or convicted molesters within the clergy than any other single occupation...even Ratzinger finds himself asking Bush for immunit ...[text shortened]... gives? Is this somehow a leftover from ancient Roman culture that accepted pederastry as normal?
Before you speculate irrationally, though, get the numbers and get the uninformed against the church. I'd suggest that if someone compiled the numbers, there would be a higher percentage of accused or convicted molesters that look at porn than any other single group of people... Now there's something you can throw crap at - publications that encourage this behaviour.
18 Sep 05
Originally posted by RatXDavie, what's your case? Is pedophilia a favourite Christian past-time? It's blatantly and repeatedly condemned - and should be by the church and population.
Davie, what's your case? Is pedophilia a favourite Christian past-time? It's blatantly and repeatedly condemned - and should be by the church and population.
Before you speculate irrationally, though, get the numbers and get the uninformed against the church. I'd suggest that if someone compiled the numbers, there would be a higher percentage of accused ...[text shortened]... le... Now there's something you can throw crap at - publications that encourage this behaviour.
I don't recall having made a case. I asked a question, that you declined to answer.
Before you speculate irrationally, <snip>
That's a red herring, sport. Does the question make you that uncomfortable?
18 Sep 05
Originally posted by checkbaiterWhy not men, if they are so inclined?
I think it would help if priests were allowed to marry...
Edit.
That is, marry woman....😉
Are there any statistics which compare the occurence of paedophilia among priests who are allowed to marry (and/or live in a homosexual relationship) and among priests who aren't?
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18 Sep 05
Originally posted by NordlysIt would be sin. Else, why have priests at all?
Why not men, if they are so inclined?
Are there any statistics which compare the occurence of paedophilia among priests who are allowed to marry (and/or live in a homosexual relationship) and among priests who aren't?
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18 Sep 05
Originally posted by NordlysThe bible does, I don't care about opinions when it comes to rightly dividing God's Word.
Not all Christians believe that homosexuality is a sin.
Rom 1:26-27
26 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature.
27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.
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19 Sep 05
Originally posted by checkbaiterWhat does that expression mean, "rightly dividing God's word"? When I have heard it, it has come up in the context where I often thought the person was saying "what I believe is right and what you believe is wrong." Maybe you could clarify it for me.
The bible does, I don't care about opinions when it comes to rightly dividing God's Word.
Rom 1:26-27
26 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature.
27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men com ...[text shortened]... g what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.
(NKJ)
19 Sep 05
Originally posted by David CAre you talking specifically about paedophilia or sexual abuse in general?
What came first, the priest or the pedophile?
"Sexual practices between an adult and an adolescent and sexual aggression against young majors, do not fall within the confines of paedophilia. In this regard, the age criterion is a strict prerequisite. Victims must be under 13 years old." (Dr. Patrice Dunaigre)