A touchy subject, I guess

Originally posted by checkbaiter
The bible does, I don't care about opinions when it comes to rightly dividing God's Word.

Rom 1:26-27
26 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature.
27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men com ...[text shortened]... g what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.
(NKJ)

Here God's word :

Matt 5:30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from
thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should
perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.

that about sums it up too.

btw Paul aint God

Originally posted by frogstomp
Here God's word :

Matt 5:30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from
thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should
perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.

that about sums it up too.

btw Paul aint God

btw Paul aint God

Neither is Matthew, when you come down to it.

Originally posted by lucifershammer
[b]btw Paul aint God

Neither is Matthew, when you come down to it.[/b]

but Matthew is quoting Christ. Paul is just Paul

Originally posted by David C
...no pun intended. What came first, the priest or the pedophile?

There are numerous reports of this type of abhorrent behaviour. I'd suggest if someone were to compile the numbers, there would be a higher percentage of accused or convicted molesters within the clergy than any other single occupation...even Ratzinger finds himself asking Bush for immunit ...[text shortened]... gives? Is this somehow a leftover from ancient Roman culture that accepted pederastry as normal?

I'd suggest if someone were to compile the numbers, there would be a higher percentage of accused or convicted molesters within the clergy than any other single occupation

You'd be wrong.

About 2% of priests are molesters - which is the same as that of the general population of married men (1). For the population as a whole, that figure is between 1% and 5% (2).

Roughly 20% of the population have been abused under the age of 18 (3). About 29% of these cases involve relatives (including parents and siblings) (4). Assuming two children per family, this translates to an incidence of abuse within families of 2.9%.

Bottom line - you are no safer at home with your family than you are with your priest.

even Ratzinger finds himself asking Bush for immunity in some case in Texas or Ohio that he tried to have hushed up.

Could you provide a link please?

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(1) http://www.catholicity.com/commentary/hudson/tenmyths.html
(2) http://www.yellodyno.com/html/child_molester_stats.html
(3) http://www.rasac.org/education/statistics.html
(4) http://www.yellodyno.com/html/child_molester_stats.html

Originally posted by frogstomp
but Matthew is quoting Christ. Paul is just Paul

but Matthew is quoting Christ.

How do you know he didn't just make it all up?

Originally posted by David C
[b]Davie, what's your case? Is pedophilia a favourite Christian past-time? It's blatantly and repeatedly condemned - and should be by the church and population.

I don't recall having made a case. I asked a question, that you declined to answer.

Before you speculate irrationally, <snip>

That's a red herring, sport. Does the question make you that uncomfortable?[/b]

I don't recall having made a case. I asked a question, that you declined to answer.

But I did. Now I await your comment.

Originally posted by kirksey957
What does that expression mean, "rightly dividing God's word"? When I have heard it, it has come up in the context where I often thought the person was saying "what I believe is right and what you believe is wrong." Maybe you could clarify it for me.

Rom 1:26-27
26 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature.
27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.
(NKJ)


Kirk, how do you interprete the above scripture part checkbaitor gave us ?

Originally posted by ivanhoe
Rom 1:26-27
26 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature.
27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.
(NKJ)


Kirk, how do you interprete the above scripture part checkbaitor gave us ?

Paulian drivel.

Originally posted by frogstomp
Paulian drivel.

And froggy avoids the question.

Originally posted by lucifershammer
And froggy avoids the question.

I answered the big question.

Is Paul God?

Originally posted by frogstomp
I answered the big question.

Is Paul God?

No you didn't.

Why should we think that Matthew accurately conveyed the words or message of Christ?

Originally posted by lucifershammer
No you didn't.

Why should we think that Matthew accurately conveyed the words or message of Christ?

There are other sources that say the same thing.

Of course your right wing lunatics decided to raise Paul to the level of God so you can't hear the word.

'tis your problem, stop trying to pass the Error to others.

Originally posted by frogstomp
There are other sources that say the same thing.

Of course your right wing lunatics decided to raise Paul to the level of God so you can't hear the word.

'tis your problem, stop trying to pass the Error to others.

There are other sources that say the same thing.

Such as?

Originally posted by lucifershammer
[b]There are other sources that say the same thing.

Such as?[/b]

Am I here to teach you what you should already know?

Originally posted by frogstomp
Am I here to teach you what you should already know?

Are you planning on answering the question?