I thought Matt didn't do well. His bodily rights argument is problematic in this situation, and Christine scored some points on that. And he passed up the chance to oppose her argument that a fetus is a human person. A fertilized egg is not a person, while the day before birth we DO have a baby, so a line needs to drawn somewhere.
I say look for the brain waves associated with consciousness. So during the first trimester and as early as possible, terminating a pregnancy doesn't involve killing a human person.
I'm also disappointed with both debaters for never stressing the importance of preventing unwanted pregnancies from occurring in the first place.
Oh well. The clip is long. Audience questions begins at about 44 minutes, and they ask some good ones. Good debate free of theism.
Originally posted by @apathistFree of theism?
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I thought Matt didn't do well. His bodily rights argument is problematic in this situation, and Christine scored some points on that. And he passed up the chance to oppose her argument that a fetus is a human person. A fertilized egg is not a person, while the day before birth we DO have a baby, so a line needs to drawn so ...[text shortened]... e questions begins at about 44 minutes, and they ask some good ones. Good debate free of theism.
debate between humanists?
You may have the wrong forum 😀
Ok, I'll check this out soon
Originally posted by @apathistNot bad. A bit too long. Starting after 20 mins (after the openings remarks) rec'd.
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I thought Matt didn't do well. His bodily rights argument is problematic in this situation, and Christine scored some points on that. And he passed up the chance to oppose her argument that a fetus is a human person. A fertilized egg is not a person, while the day before birth we DO have a baby, so a line needs to drawn so ...[text shortened]... e questions begins at about 44 minutes, and they ask some good ones. Good debate free of theism.
It's a bit weird ,imo, to look at human rights from an unborns perspective, but thats what that chick does.
I cant sympathize with her. I must be a bad human being
