Absurd REALLY stupid stories in the bible.

Originally posted by Zahlanzi
improvements to what? underwear?

yes, create a force field underwear, complete with "phasing into another universe technology" and when the nuke detonates, the underwear shifts the wearer out of the way into a parallel universe (to account for the kinetic force), and after the blast is passed, shift him back here, and protect the wearer from radiation. ...[text shortened]... be made victoria secret sexy. (the subject is an underwear model, my explanation requires it)

Ummm. No.

See the basis of this discussion is whether there are parts of your religious
beliefs that are contradicted by science.

So we are looking here for valid scientific options and not star trek technobabble.

Nothing even remotely human, is going to survive a nuclear blast at point blank
range wearing any kind of clothing.

Even if you build an iron man style suit that can handle the heat and radiation
the person inside is still going to be converted into soup by the g-forces and
shockwave.



Sure I can make up star trek technobabble magic solutions... Just as people can
make up any kind of nonsense about gods and say they do it by magic.

However the question here is whether your religion is compatible with actual science
and not Hollywood 'science'.

Originally posted by Zahlanzi
i think someone mentioned on this forum or i read somewhere that there is a limit to how small we can make nukes nowadays.

Ummm. Yes... me in the post under the one you're quoting....

Originally posted by googlefudge
Ummm. No.

See the basis of this discussion is whether there are parts of your religious
beliefs that are contradicted by science.

So we are looking here for valid scientific options and not star trek technobabble.

Nothing even remotely human, is going to survive a nuclear blast at point blank
range wearing any kind of clothing.

Even if yo ...[text shortened]... here is whether your religion is compatible with actual science
and not Hollywood 'science'.

oh well why didn't you say so in the first place.


i understand now: we are talking only about the current state of science, not how it might be improved in the future. i thought we were talking how jesus, if he existed, must have had science we don't know (magic if you will). but sure, let's discuss how humans have not resurrected another human (yet). it will totally have meaning in anything we wish to prove(or disprove) about jesus

ok, i agree, with the science today, WE can only resurrect a dog, not a human, after at most 3 hours with special precautions taken to preserve the body.

Originally posted by googlefudge
Ummm. Yes... me in the post under the one you're quoting....

cute

Originally posted by Zahlanzi
improvements to what? underwear?

yes, create a force field underwear, complete with "phasing into another universe technology" and when the nuke detonates, the underwear shifts the wearer out of the way into a parallel universe (to account for the kinetic force), and after the blast is passed, shift him back here, and protect the wearer from radiation. ...[text shortened]... be made victoria secret sexy. (the subject is an underwear model, my explanation requires it)

That's all well and good, your butt and genitals might come out unscathed but the rest of you not covered by your magic underwear? Not so good🙂

Originally posted by sonhouse
That's all well and good, your butt and genitals might come out unscathed but the rest of you not covered by your magic underwear? Not so good🙂

that's what the anti-radiation shield is for. keeps you safe from radiation when you return from the paralel universe (which is guaranteed to not have a nuke exploded right that second). common man, pay attention.

Originally posted by Zahlanzi
cute

I thought so.

Originally posted by Zahlanzi
oh well why didn't you say so in the first place.


i understand now: we are talking only about the current state of science, not how it might be improved in the future. i thought we were talking how jesus, if he existed, must have had science we don't know (magic if you will). but sure, let's discuss how humans have not resurrected another human (yet). ...[text shortened]... dog, not a human, after at most 3 hours with special precautions taken to preserve the body.

We are talking about science today and what is possible, not what might be possible in the future. That would give scope for fundamentalist's to state whatever nonsense they liked and then claim 'but you don't know what scientific advancements will happen in the future'.

Originally posted by Proper Knob
We are talking about science today and what is possible, not what might be possible in the future. That would give scope for fundamentalist's to state whatever nonsense they liked and then claim 'but you don't know what scientific advancements will happen in the future'.

That and the fact (as made clear in "The Relativity of Wrong"😉 that as our
understanding of nature through science gets better the scope for science
being wrong gets smaller.

for example.

The likelihood of ever accelerating a particle to beyond the speed of light
at any time in the future no matter how much we learn is so unbelievably
small that we can treat it as being effectively zero.

The Theory Of Special Relativity is so incredibly well established and tested
that we can be as certain as it's possible to be that accelerating past light
speed is impossible, and always has been and always will be.


Similarly, we can be highly confident that nobody will ever be resurrected
after 3~4 days of being dead (as opposed to being in a coma) without being
in some kind of stasis/suspended animation chamber (which may not in itself
be possible) as in that time the information stored in the brain required to
rebuild that persons personality will be securely erased.

We can always be wrong, What changes is by how much.