Originally posted by chaney3If you can't remember what he said, then why did you characterize him as saying that the origin of life was "a random roll of the cosmic dice". That's a very specific turn of phrase you have chosen to use. You can hear the words spinning as they glide across the forum baize. Even if you don't recall what he said, do you believe this characterization of yours - of what he said - is fair and honest?
Unlike you, I don't keep records and notes of what people say. I also don't spend time scrolling through posting history.
Ghost will correct me as needed.
Originally posted by chaney3Please link to where I have stated this.
Randomness, coincidence and luck.
The universe and humans came to be with a random roll of the cosmic dice.
Thanks.
(You're more likely to stumble across where I freely acknowledge I don't have the answers, but don't as a consequence feel any pressure to accept unbelievable alternatives).
Originally posted by Ghost of a DukeAs I said to FMF, I am going by memory. We got into some ugly disputes in the 'Moon' thread, where randomness and coincidence were key words.
Please link to where I have stated this.
Thanks.
(You're more likely to stumble across where I freely acknowledge I don't have the answers, but don't as a consequence feel any pressure to accept unbelievable alternatives).
Coin flips were involved.
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Originally posted by avalanchethecatDo you have evidence of a self assembled and self-repairing space-ship?
How do you know it can't? Just because in your limited experience you've never encountered self-assembling and self-repairing 'space-ships' doesn't mean they don't exist. Your experience of the universe is really entirely insignificant, you have absolutely no idea what goes on in most of it. Why do you pretend to knowledge you don't have? If you are ...[text shortened]... out conscious input somewhere in the vast expanse of time and space that comprises our universe.
Do you have evidence of a painting as intricate in detail as the Mona Lisa that painted itself?
If not, why do you rule out the possibility that something as functional and intricate as the human body could have been designed when everything around you with remotely as much functionality is clearly the product of design?
Originally posted by chaney3I have told you plainly that I don't view the existence of God as a possibility. Please explain how this way of thinking is concordant with agnosticism. Thanks.
I think he is secretly an agnostic, but, that's for another debate entirely.
(I think you are secretly an abandoned flip flop, but that's also an entirely different debate).
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Originally posted by dj2beckerDo you have evidence that there are no self-assembling or self-repairing 'space-ships'?
Do you have evidence of a self assembled and self-repairing space-ship?
Do you have evidence of a painting as intricate in detail as the Mona Lisa that painted itself?
If not, why do you rule out the possibility that something as functional and intricate as the human body could have been designed when everything around you with remotely as much functionality is clearly the product of design?
Do you have evidence that there are no such intricate but naturally originated 'paintings'?
If you learn a little more about biology you will no doubt come to the realisation that it clearly isn't the product of design, unless the designer is a combination of incredible genius and bone-headed half-wit.
Originally posted by chaney3Yes, that was a discussion about 'probability'. (In short, the universe is so big that it was only logical that every now and then the conditions would be just right to sustain life).
No, you compared the random flipping of coins landing on heads or tails, to the universe, somehow, I don't remember entirely.
But, I do remember Elvis burnt toast, but not the context.
Not sure why you have veered off into randomness.
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Originally posted by avalanchethecatAre you claiming that they do exist? If so where is your evidence?
Do you have evidence that there are no self-assembling or self-repairing 'space-ships'.
Do you have evidence that there are no such intricate but naturally originated 'paintings'?
If you learn a little more about biology you will no doubt come to the realisation that it clearly isn't the product of design, unless the designer is a combination of incredible genius and bone-headed half-wit.
What exact part of Biology brought you to the realisation that you are clearly not the product of design?
Originally posted by Ghost of a DukeYes, I said your 'conditions' were quite 'lucky' for us humans....but you didn't like the word 'luck' and prefer instead the more scientific term of 'probability'.
Yes, that was a discussion about 'probability'. (In short, the universe is so big that it was only logical that every now and then the conditions would be just right to sustain life).
Not sure why you have veered off into randomness.
But, it's luck. (Without a Creator, that is).