1. Standard memberbill718
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    30 Oct '08 22:44
    Confucus, Mohammed, Moses, Solomon. Despite there accomplishments, they were just people, just like us. Maybe in the universal sceme of things, we are just as imporntant as they are.
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  2. Donationrwingett
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    31 Oct '08 01:34
    Originally posted by bill718
    Confucus, Mohammed, Moses, Solomon. Despite there accomplishments, they were just people, just like us. Maybe in the universal sceme of things, we are just as imporntant as they are.
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    Importance is a relative thing. Those people are important to whom? Solomon may be more important than me to most people, but there is a small number for whom the opposite is true. And that is enough for me.

    Everybody is important to someone.
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    31 Oct '08 02:18
    Originally posted by bill718
    Confucus, Mohammed, Moses, Solomon. Despite there accomplishments, they were just people, just like us. Maybe in the universal sceme of things, we are just as imporntant as they are.
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    You're right they were just people. Jesus however was different. He wasn't just a person, he was also God.
  4. Donationrwingett
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    31 Oct '08 11:00
    Originally posted by chappy1
    You're right they were just people. Jesus however was different. He wasn't just a person, he was also God.
    Uh, no, I'm pretty sure that he was just a person too.
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    31 Oct '08 11:31
    Originally posted by rwingett
    Importance is a relative thing.
    And for that reason, one can probably argue that relative to 'the universal scheme of things' the word holds no meaning. ie we are not 'equally important' we simply cannot be measure on the 'importance scale' without a given reference.
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    31 Oct '08 11:571 edit
    Originally posted by rwingett
    Uh, no, I'm pretty sure that he was just a person too.
    If God were to become a man or woman, which man or woman in human history do you think acted the closest to how we might expect God to act ?

    A serious response please. No jokes.
  7. Donationrwingett
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    31 Oct '08 12:41
    Originally posted by jaywill
    If God were to become a man or woman, which man or woman in human history do you think acted the closest to how we might expect God to act ?

    A serious response please. No jokes.
    "IF" is the operative word in that sentence. Even if Jesus were the most perfect human, he was still just a human. I don't think the first christians thought he was 'divine' either. I think that was a later fabrication.
  8. Donationrwingett
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    31 Oct '08 12:47
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    And for that reason, one can probably argue that relative to 'the universal scheme of things' the word holds no meaning. ie we are not 'equally important' we simply cannot be measure on the 'importance scale' without a given reference.
    I don't believe there is a 'universal scheme of things.' There are billions of individual schemes, all interacting with each other.
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    31 Oct '08 18:02
    Originally posted by jaywill
    If God were to become a man or woman, which man or woman in human history do you think acted the closest to how we might expect God to act ?

    A serious response please. No jokes.
    Jesus.
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    31 Oct '08 20:01
    Originally posted by rwingett
    I don't believe there is a 'universal scheme of things.' There are billions of individual schemes, all interacting with each other.
    I think we are in agreement. My point was that unless one of those individual schemes is specified then our importance cannot be measured.
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    31 Oct '08 20:07
    Originally posted by jaywill
    If God were to become a man or woman, which man or woman in human history do you think acted the closest to how we might expect God to act ?

    A serious response please. No jokes.
    I seriously don't know of anyone. But then again, I don't know enough about your definition of God, to make a good guess anyway.
    There are a number of people I greatly respect including Ghandi, Mandela, and even the fictional Jesus, but they all had failings too which I would not expect from God unless that was part of his plan in which case just about anyone would fit the bill.
    When it comes to 'messengers of God' I think Mohamed is a far better fit. He gave a complete written dictation from God, which is generally far more internally consistent that the Bible, and is much clearer about things such as how to live and govern.
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    01 Nov '08 16:18
    Originally posted by jaywill
    If God were to become a man or woman, which man or woman in human history do you think acted the closest to how we might expect God to act ?

    A serious response please. No jokes.
    In all seriousness: Buddha.
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