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I created this thread especially for those secular proselytisers who want to air their disgust, disdain, scorn, repulsion, etc. towards the Christian faith.
Have a good time.
Have a good time.
Originally posted by ivanhoeWell i was brought up christian so i think i have the right to criticize it if i want.
I created this thread especially for those secular proselytisers who want to air their disgust, disdain, scorn, repulsion, etc. towards the Christian faith.
Have a good time.
Originally posted by ivanhoeIts not specifically anti-christian, but a good one all the same:
I created this thread especially for those secular proselytisers who want to air their disgust, disdain, scorn, repulsion, etc. towards the Christian faith.
Have a good time.
Originally posted by RedmikeI put this is Spirituality Quotes because this didn't exist but I think it's more appropriate here:
Its not specifically anti-christian, but a good one all the same:
"Those who toil and live in want all their lives are taught by religion to be submissive and patient while here on earth, and to take comfort in the hope of a heavenly reward. But those who live by the labour of others are taught by religion to practise charity while on earth, thus offering ...[text shortened]... e as exploiters and selling them at a moderate price tickets to well-being in heaven." VI Lenin
Originally posted by dk3nnyJust to clarify, the Catholic Church isn't Christian. There are Christians within it, but as a body, it's corrupt.
Well i was brought up christian so i think i have the right to criticize it if i want.
Theres a lot of things that i think are wrong with it.
Catholic priests not being allowed to marry. Hell, no female catholic priests. Where did Jesus say it was a mens only club?
How are these men supposed to lead a normal life, how are they supposed to give marrige c ...[text shortened]... inly because people have faith that GOD will sort it all our for us.. Very dangerous thinking.
Originally posted by DarfiusThanks for the clarification.
Just to clarify, the Catholic Church isn't Christian. There are Christians within it, but as a body, it's corrupt.
Oh, and when they tell you they've been around for 2000 years, that's a complete and bold lie. Peter did NOT sponsor that corrupt church.
Originally posted by Darfius
Just to clarify, the Catholic Church isn't Christian. There are Christians within it, but as a body, it's corrupt.
Oh, and when they tell you they've been around for 2000 years, that's a complete and bold lie. Peter did NOT sponsor that corrupt church.
Originally posted by ivanhoeYou would be one of those "Christians within the church", ivan.
No more eggnog for you, bud ......
Originally posted by Darfius
You would be one of those "Christians within the church", ivan.
I apologize if I offended you, but I will not support a church that values its traditions over the Word of God and says so proudly. Do you see no problem with the rampant Mary worship and celibacy despite the explicit orders of God in Genesis?
Originally posted by DarfiusDarfius,
You would be one of those "Christians within the church", ivan.
I apologize if I offended you, but I will not support a church that values its traditions over the Word of God and says so proudly. Do you see no problem with the rampant Mary worship and celibacy despite the explicit orders of God in Genesis?
Originally posted by DarfiusI do not think it is its tradition that the Roman Catholic Church sees itself as upholding: it is the ecclesial (“apostolic&rdquo😉 tradition, by which and out of which the Bible canon originated and was/is interpreted. For example, you yourself have used the phrase “God-Man” to refer to Jesus as the Christ, and have talked about the human and divine natures—this was “fleshed out” at the Council of Chalcedon in 451 because of controversies about how such Biblical phrases as “Son of God” and “Son of Man” were interpreted and understood. The viewpoint is not, I think, that the Bible is valued less than the tradition, but that the tradition provides the necessary “ground” in which to interpret the Biblical message.
You would be one of those "Christians within the church", ivan.
I apologize if I offended you, but I will not support a church that values its traditions over the Word of God and says so proudly. Do you see no problem with the rampant ...[text shortened]... orship and celibacy despite the explicit orders of God in Genesis?
Originally posted by DarfiusUh oh, do I see a "schism" coming on?
You would be one of those "Christians within the church", ivan.
I apologize if I offended you, but I will not support a church that values its traditions over the Word of God and says so proudly. Do you see no problem with the rampant Mary worship and celibacy despite the explicit orders of God in Genesis?
Originally posted by DarfiusHey Dar, you're about 488 years too late. Martin Luther already cleared it up. Thanks though.
Just to clarify, the Catholic Church isn't Christian. There are Christians within it, but as a body, it's corrupt.
Oh, and when they tell you they've been around for 2000 years, that's a complete and bold lie. Peter did NOT sponsor that corrupt church.
Originally posted by vistesdIt wasn't apostlic tradition. Apostlic tradition is all in the Bible, and it says nothing about keeping priests celibate.
I do not think it is its tradition that the Roman Catholic Church sees itself as upholding: it is the ecclesial (“apostolic&rdquo😉 tradition, by which and out of which the Bible canon originated and was/is interpreted. For example, you yourself have used the phrase “God-Man” to refer to Jesus as the Christ, and have talked about the human and divin ...[text shortened]... adition (whether Luther intended this extended breach, I think, is still a subject of debate).