Originally posted by robbie carrobieYou mistakenly believe that to 'know God' means to read the Bible. I have not seen that anywhere in the BIble.
how does that answer the question?
and could you use a more modern translation, we dont sayeth knoweth anymoreth
John is saying that to know God is to show brotherly love to those around you. Those passages say that very clearly. And thre are dozens like that.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieYou quoted it specifically as evidence of Jesus being "an excellent student of scripture". You gave two bits of evidence:one of them was this, Jesus quoting himself later after demonstrating he was "an excellent student of scripture" when nobody was there?
why dont you do some research for yourself, who knows what you may learn.
Originally posted by Rajk999yes but you have still failed to tell us how they get to know God and the NWT clearly speaks of gaining knowledge.
You mistakenly believe that to 'know God' means to read the Bible. I have not seen that anywhere in the BIble.
John is saying that to know God is to show brotherly love to those around you. Those passages say that very clearly. And thre are dozens like that.
Originally posted by FMFsorry none of what you say is either on topic nor makes any sense. The scriptures were used to demonstrate that Christ was an excellent student of scripture, indeed , to find a single verse in a scroll several metres long would demonstrate that and to quote from scripture four times is evidence that he knew the scriptures, all texts come from the Hebrew portion of the Bible so i have no idea where you get the idea that Christ quoted himself. Why this should present any problem for the reasonable person I cannot say.
You quoted it specifically as evidence of Jesus being "an excellent student of scripture". You gave two bits of evidence:one of them was this, Jesus quoting himself later after demonstrating he was "an excellent student of scripture" when nobody was there?
Originally posted by redbaronsand you have no way of telling us on what you assertion is based except well, that you said it. Thanks but this is spirituality, here we require proof for truth claims!
I am not saying anything is true as I said the 2 arguments are just that( not fact) but probably fiction.
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Originally posted by Rajk999I have assumed nothing i want to know how its possible to know God without study, that is something entirely different from what you are saying. So they know God because they have brotherly love? Does God miraculously bestow this knowledge upon them?
You mistakenly believe that to 'know God' means to read the Bible. I have not seen that anywhere in the BIble.
John is saying that to know God is to show brotherly love to those around you. Those passages say that very clearly. And thre are dozens like that.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieWhen he returned from the wilderness. You said he was in the wilderness. You said he demonstrated he was "an excellent student of scripture" when he was in the wilderness when there was nobody there except the Devil. So he must have quoted himself, verbatim, when he then told someone about this exchange after he returned from the wilderness. I got the idea that Jesus quoted himself from you.
...i have no idea where you get the idea that Christ quoted himself.
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Originally posted by FMFIf you can quote four verses it surely demonstrates that you have a knowledge of those verses otherwise you would not be able to quote those verses, you think? whether he quoted himself verbatim i cannot say nor does it matter, all that matters to my point was that he knew them. If you wish to speculate on anything beyond that then its your affair, not mine.
When he returned from the wilderness. You said he was in the wilderness. You said he demonstrated he was "an excellent student of scripture" when he was in the wilderness when there was nobody there except the Devil. So he must have quoted himself, verbatim, when he then told someone about this exchange after he returned from the wilderness. I got the idea that Jesus quoted himself from you.
The verses he quoted were from the Hebrew scriptures, you would know that if you studied the Bible.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieBut nobody was there with him in the wilderness. You now say he quoted four verses. Who said he quoted four verses back then? The Devil was supposedly the only witness.
If you can quote four verses it surely demonstrates that you have a knowledge of those verses otherwise you would not be able to quote those verses, you think?
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Originally posted by FMFSo what, none of what you are saying has any relevance to whether Christ was a good student of scripture which is why the point was made.
But nobody was there with him in the wilderness. You now say he quoted four verses. Who said he quoted four verses back then? The Devil was supposedly the only witness.