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    06 May '07 09:31
    Originally posted by wittywonka
    Nobody knows for sure how old it is, but the majority of the scientific community believes it is approximately 4.6 billion year old.
    So they believe something that they do not know for sure?
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    06 May '07 09:34
    Originally posted by wittywonka
    Nobody knows for sure how old it is, but the majority of the scientific community believes it is approximately 4.6 billion year old.
    Okay. So why assume that it is 4.6 billions years old?
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    06 May '07 09:46
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    Science tells you that or people do?
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    Science.
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    06 May '07 09:49
    Originally posted by Phuzudaka
    Okay. So why assume that it is 4.6 billions years old?
    No one is assuming anything. And no one is guessing anything. And no one is believing something they don't know for sure (other than those that believe in God I suppose).

    Radioactive dating, the fossil record, astrometric and geological data (icecores, mineral layers etc.) all tell us that the Earth is 4.6 Billion years old. No scientific data contradicts this age.
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    06 May '07 10:061 edit
    Originally posted by XanthosNZ
    No one is assuming anything. And no one is guessing anything. And no one is believing something they don't know for sure (other than those that believe in God I suppose).

    Radioactive dating, the fossil record, astrometric and geological data (icecores, mineral layers etc.) all tell us that the Earth is 4.6 Billion years old. No scientific data contradicts this age.
    Do you want to tell me that no assumptions are made for any of the dating methods?
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    06 May '07 10:07
    Originally posted by XanthosNZ
    Science.
    Is Science fallible?
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    06 May '07 10:15
    Originally posted by Phuzudaka
    Do you want to tell me that no assumptions are made for any of the dating methods?
    Do you want to tell me that the assumptions first made in the dating methods can't be verified by one of the other fields I mentioned?
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    06 May '07 10:16
    Originally posted by Phuzudaka
    Is Science fallible?
    Science is no less fallible than the practioners of said science. However, if you want to claim that current wisdom in the scientific fields is flawed you need to provide evidence. Do you have any evidence?
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    06 May '07 13:20
    Originally posted by XanthosNZ
    I'm 100% sure that the age of the earth is in the order of billions of years. And I'm 100% sure it's not in the order of thousands of years. Science tells me this.
    I've repeatedly said that the age of the earth is probably older than we can imagine, but I also know that God could have snapped his fingers and created it old in a mere moment of time.
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    06 May '07 13:30
    Originally posted by josephw
    I've repeatedly said that the age of the earth is probably older than we can imagine, but I also know that God could have snapped his fingers and created it old in a mere moment of time.
    Which of these two possibilities do you think is more likely?
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    06 May '07 14:13
    Originally posted by Starrman
    For you it's the latter.
    If for you it is the former, that mean that science speaks to you, is
    that like a deity, does it use words, or give you visions? After the
    conversation I had with people telling me about dogs making
    promises to one another and calling that science, I'm becoming move
    impressed with the way science speaks. I use to think it was all people
    but I'm no longer sure, how does science speak to you?
    Kelly
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    06 May '07 15:011 edit
    Originally posted by Phuzudaka
    100.50012 million years and counting
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    06 May '07 19:08
    Originally posted by XanthosNZ
    I'm 100% sure that the age of the earth is in the order of billions of years. And I'm 100% sure it's not in the order of thousands of years. Science tells me this.
    Agreed. I think that's all that really needs to be said here.
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    06 May '07 20:20
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    If for you it is the former, that mean that science speaks to you, is
    that like a deity, does it use words, or give you visions? After the
    conversation I had with people telling me about dogs making
    promises to one another and calling that science, I'm becoming move
    impressed with the way science speaks. I use to think it was all people
    but I'm no longer sure, how does science speak to you?
    Kelly
    You don't know the first thing about science, the scientific method or anything else related to this topic for that matter.
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    06 May '07 23:021 edit
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    Science tells you that or people do?
    Kelly
    Here's what science tells us :

    http://www.asa3.org/ASA/resources/Wiens.html
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