Archangel Michael

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
As to serving in the armed forces, what does secular history disclose about the
attitude of early Christians?

“A careful review of all the information available goes to show that, until the time of
Marcus Aurelius [Roman emperor from 161 to 180 C.E.], [b]no Christian became a
soldier; and no soldier, after becoming a Christian, remained in m ...[text shortened]... trates, or of
princes.”—History of Christianity (New York, 1891), Edward Gibbon, pp. 162, 163.

You know it's noble and right to love peace but you guys need to pull your heads out !!!! as MR. Hinds says LOL You twist history and scripture

Joshua was a man of war. David was a man of war (God still loved him)
You twist history. It's ok to be a pacifist just don't hide behind being a JW to do it.


Manny

Originally posted by menace71
You know it's noble and right to love peace but you guys need to pull your heads out !!!! as MR. Hinds says LOL You twist history and scripture

Joshua was a man of war. David was a man of war (God still loved him)
You twist history. It's ok to be a pacifist just don't hide behind being a JW to do it.


Manny

whats up? did secular historians burst your bubble. Just like a nominal Christian to
clutch at straws and proffer his opinion like it was some kind of truth. We are
Christians, perhaps you can point to a single Biblical verse which states that a
Christian should go to war, for i can cite many that are contrary, but what's the point,
you'll simply ignore them and spout some other self certified opinion. Never the
less, for those that do appreciate Biblical principles and their application,

(Isaiah 2:3-4) . . .” For out of Zion law will go forth, and the word of Jehovah out of
Jerusalem.  And he will certainly render judgment among the nations and set
matters straight respecting many peoples. And they will have to beat their swords
into plowshares and their spears into pruning shears. Nation will not lift up sword
against nation, neither will they learn war anymore.


(2 Corinthians 10:4)  For the weapons of our warfare are not fleshly, but
powerful by God for overturning strongly entrenched things.



which one of these verse have we twisted, do tell.

Originally posted by menace71
You know it's noble and right to love peace but you guys need to pull your heads out !!!! as MR. Hinds says LOL You twist history and scripture

Joshua was a man of war. David was a man of war (God still loved him)
You twist history. It's ok to be a pacifist just don't hide behind being a JW to do it.


Manny

And why were these men warriors? Any clue as to why Jehovah had his people fight?
Do a little research and see if you can figure this out.

In the meantime we do what Jehovah tells us to do. Jehovah had his people fight then and that's what they did.
But the need to fight is not needed now and Jesus with direction from his Father has told us not to fight and not to kill.
So that is what we do not do.
Try and imagine what this world would be like if all followed Jesus's words on this if you can pull your head out...........

Originally posted by galveston75
And why were these men warriors? Any clue as to why Jehovah had his people fight?
Do a little research and see if you can figure this out.

In the meantime we do what Jehovah tells us to do. Jehovah had his people fight then and that's what they did.
But the need to fight is not needed now and Jesus with direction from his Father has told us not t ...[text shortened]... d would be like if all followed Jesus's words on this if you can pull your head out...........

God did not approve of Davids warfare, that is why he was refused permission to build
the temple. Joshua was commanded to execute divine judgement, which Army
personal is likewise executing divine commands when they take up a weapon? and we
are the ones twisting scripture, hilarious.

Originally posted by galveston75
And why were these men warriors? Any clue as to why Jehovah had his people fight?
Do a little research and see if you can figure this out.

In the meantime we do what Jehovah tells us to do. Jehovah had his people fight then and that's what they did.
But the need to fight is not needed now and Jesus with direction from his Father has told us not t ...[text shortened]... d would be like if all followed Jesus's words on this if you can pull your head out...........

Don't you mean you do what the Watchtower tells you?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
God did not approve of Davids warfare, that is why he was refused permission to build
the temple. Joshua was commanded to execute divine judgement, which Army
personal is likewise executing divine commands when they take up a weapon? and we
are the ones twisting scripture, hilarious.

David had sex with another man's wife and also had the man put in the
thick of battle so that man would be sure to be killed in an attempt to
cover up his affair.

P.S. I suppose you believe God disapproved of David going into battle
against the giant Goliath too.

Originally posted by RJHinds
David had sex with another man's wife and also had the man put in the
thick of battle so that man would be sure to be killed in an attempt to
cover up his affair.

P.S. I suppose you believe God disapproved of David going into battle
against the giant Goliath too.

Oh my, again..... I seem to say that a lot with your comments. Like I said at least your enternaining to say the least when you ask questions like this. Lol
I could come back with some smart remark but I'm seeing that it's not good as I just know you really don't understand as much about us as you think. So I'll give you some slack. 🙂

Originally posted by galveston75
Oh my, again..... I seem to say that a lot with your comments. Like I said at least your enternaining to say the least when you ask questions like this. Lol
I could come back with some smart remark but I'm seeing that it's not good as I just know you really don't understand as much about us as you think. So I'll give you some slack. 🙂

The question is for robbie. I believe he is the more knowledgeable one
for he claims to know Greek.

Originally posted by RJHinds
The question is for robbie. I believe he is the more knowledgeable one
for he claims to know Greek.

Oh for sure he is. But I'm just amased at the questions you ask us at times. If you really knew us as yoiu think you do and say you do, you wouldn't ask those strange questions.

Originally posted by galveston75
Oh for sure he is. But I'm just amased at the questions you ask us at times. If you really knew us as yoiu think you do and say you do, you wouldn't ask those strange questions.

I was not with the JWs very long. I know you guys are supposed to
agree on everything; but robbie may have a different opinion than
you since he is not in the USA. My problem was I could not agree on
almost anything with group I was with. It appears to still be the same.

Originally posted by RJHinds
I was not with the JWs very long. I know you guys are supposed to
agree on everything; but robbie may have a different opinion than
you since he is not in the USA. My problem was I could not agree on
almost anything with group I was with. It appears to still be the same.

Oh we may have a different opinion on who's going to win the Superbowl but when it comes to the Bible..complete agreement. This agreement will be the same all over the world with any JW. Just as Jesus said there would be with his followers.
So are you a part of any church now or just on your own?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
whats up? did secular historians burst your bubble. Just like a nominal Christian to
clutch at straws and proffer his opinion like it was some kind of truth. We are
Christians, perhaps you can point to a single Biblical verse which states that a
Christian should go to war, for i can cite many that are contrary, but what's the point,
you'll ...[text shortened]... rturning strongly entrenched things.



which one of these verse have we twisted, do tell.

In a perfect world when God rules there will no longer be warfare. However we aint there yet. So whatever be conquered if you choose!! The sons of Zebudee we called sons of thunder by Jesus and Jesus did not rebuke them for that.




Manny

Originally posted by menace71
In a perfect world when God rules there will no longer be warfare. However we aint there yet. So whatever be conquered if you choose!! The sons of Zebudee we called sons of thunder by Jesus and Jesus did not rebuke them for that.




Manny

and that's relevant because?

Originally posted by galveston75
Oh we may have a different opinion on who's going to win the Superbowl but when it comes to the Bible..complete agreement. This agreement will be the same all over the world with any JW. Just as Jesus said there would be with his followers.
So are you a part of any church now or just on your own?

I do not claim to be part of any organized religious group now. But I
am still a member of the Calvary Baptist Church in Tyler, Texas. I do
claim to be a Christian and part of the Body of Christ with other
Christians.