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    17 Jan '12 23:17
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    But what is your motive?
    The motive is to debate, get across a point, discuss ... whatever. If during the course of that someone introduces nonsense then that has to be pointed out. If its ridiculous ... then ridicule it!
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    18 Jan '12 00:18
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    I think it has to do with psychology and their need to convince themselves
    that they do not have to be accountable to God. The more people they
    have on their side validates their belief in their view to claim they are on
    the side of science. So they try to undermine the faith of Christians and
    ridicule us for our beliefs. They have no other need to convince us that
    we are wrong, for to them there is no accountability in a heaven or hell.
    careful; psychology is a science, and for someone who belongs to a gang as big as Christianity to accuse others of requiring affirmation in numbers is bit rich. the name of this forum is Spirituality which is by its nature open to question and debate perhaps those who have already opted for a closed religious doctrine are on the wrong site.
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    18 Jan '12 01:50
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    The thread "Christianity in 105 Words " was an attempt to mock
    Christianity. So he enjoyed doing the same for atheism in his
    own way. I thought it was pretty good and funny, too.
    You mean there is another thread like this one?

    What are the odds? 😲
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    18 Jan '12 01:58
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    The motive is to debate, get across a point, discuss ... whatever. If during the course of that someone introduces nonsense then that has to be pointed out. If its ridiculous ... then ridicule it!
    You mean like believing that life came from nothing? Surely those of "reason" would use the scientific method to observe and test this theory before they grab both their ankles and embrace such thinking.
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    18 Jan '12 02:08
    Originally posted by whodey
    You mean like believing that life came from nothing? Surely those of "reason" would use the scientific method to observe and test this theory before they grab both their ankles and embrace such thinking.
    who believes life came from nothing?
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    18 Jan '12 02:09
    Originally posted by whodey
    You mean there is another thread like this one?

    What are the odds? 😲
    Could I possibly be wrong and you are actually a googlefudge in
    disguise and promoting atheism and evolution to the extreme?
    Hahaha, 😉 😀
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    18 Jan '12 02:12
    Originally posted by VoidSpirit
    who believes life came from nothing?
    Put another way, life from nonlife. Why do you believe life came from nonlife by chance when it has NEVER been obeserved or tested?
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    18 Jan '12 02:164 edits
    Originally posted by VoidSpirit
    who believes life came from nothing?
    Christians believes life came from other life and ultimately from the
    life of God. Googlefudge is completely ignorant on the subject are
    you also ignorant?

    P.S. I thought so. What a miserable testamony.
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    18 Jan '12 02:20
    Originally posted by whodey
    Put another way, life from nonlife.
    that's better.

    Why do you believe life came from nonlife by chance when it has NEVER been obeserved or tested?


    i don't believe it formed from non-life. i don't know how life formed. what i do know is that there are two logical possibilities: either life has existed eternally; or at one point in the past, it came from non-life.

    i don't have any particular system in mind for the above statement, rather i state it as a general rule.

    lacking any further information, either possibility is as good as the other.
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    18 Jan '12 02:22
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Christians believes life came from other life and ultimately from the
    life of God. Googlefudge is completely ignorant on the subject are
    you also ignorant?
    you don't have the mental capacity to participate in this discussion. better you stay out of it or risk embarrassing yourself further.
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    18 Jan '12 02:42
    Originally posted by whodey
    Put another way, life from nonlife. Why do you believe life came from nonlife by chance when it has NEVER been obeserved or tested?
    Just like googlefudge, VoidSpirit does not care if it has NEVER been obeserved
    or tested? It is in his self-interest to believe God is not the source of life and
    it happened by accident. Otherwise, the implication is that he may be
    accountable to God.
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    18 Jan '12 02:44
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Just like googlefudge, VoidSpirit does not care if it has NEVER been obeserved
    or tested? It is in his self-interest to believe God is not the source of life and
    it happened by accident. Otherwise, the implication is that he may be
    accountable to God.
    too late, you embarrassed yourself further despite my warning.
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    18 Jan '12 02:521 edit
    Originally posted by VoidSpirit
    that's better.

    Why do you believe life came from nonlife by chance when it has NEVER been obeserved or tested?


    i don't believe it formed from non-life. i don't know how life formed. what i do know is that there are two logical possibilities: either life has existed eternally; or at one point in the past, it came from non-life.

    i eneral rule.

    lacking any further information, either possibility is as good as the other.
    Do you realize that your statement is on the verge of admitting life comes
    from the eternal God? As you pointed out the other logical conclusion is
    that life came from non-life; but if you really thought about it you would
    realize there is nothing logical about life coming from non-life. It has
    never been shown to be the case. Life has always come from life and the
    only source of eternal life is the God of the Holy Bible.
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    18 Jan '12 03:06
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Do you realize that your statement is on the verge of admitting life comes
    from the eternal God? As you pointed out the other logical conclusion is
    that life came from non-life; but if you really thought about it you would
    realize there is nothing logical about life coming from non-life. It has
    never been shown to be the case. Life has always come from life and the
    only source of eternal life is the God of the Holy Bible.
    you should really heed my warnings. the conclusion you have drawn from what i said is completely wrong as is your attempted logical interpretation.

    the two possibilities are:
    1. life has existed forever, not necessarily your god, another god or any number of other gods. i'm talking about life in general.

    2. at some point in the past, life came from non life. this includes the possibility of your god, another god or any number of other gods coming into existence from non-life, but more specifically, life in general.

    both are equally valid given our lack of information.
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    18 Jan '12 03:22
    Originally posted by VoidSpirit
    you should really heed my warnings. the conclusion you have drawn from what i said is completely wrong as is your attempted logical interpretation.

    the two possibilities are:
    1. life has existed forever, not necessarily your god, another god or any number of other gods. i'm talking about life in general.

    2. at some point in the past, life came fr ...[text shortened]... ut more specifically, life in general.

    both are equally valid given our lack of information.
    So you are saying that life came from a God of some type?
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