1. Standard memberRJHinds
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    http://www.texemarrs.com/032011/solving_mystery_babylon.htm

    P.S. Any comments?
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    No it's not just the Catholic church but all false religion. If you see anything you are curious about here let me know as we've done a little research on who it is......


    "BABYLON THE GREAT"

    (See also Babylon [City]; Babylon [Empire]; Religion; Restoration)
    abhorrence by Jehovah’s Witnesses: w89 4/15 18-23
    adornment:
    contrast to New Jerusalem: it-1 52; it-2 560-561

    attire: re 244; w89 4/15 13

    bloodguilt: lv 83-84; w06 3/15 28; re 101, 207-208, 245, 270-271; w90 2/1 17; w89 4/1 5; w89 4/15 13, 23; w89 5/1 6; w89 5/15 3-5; w88 12/15 21-22; w86 9/1 21; tp 22-25; g86 12/8 24-25

    “drunk with the blood of the holy ones” (Re 17:6): re 101, 245; w89 4/15 13; it-1 241

    captivity of people: w91 12/1 12-13; ws 151

    remnant till 1919: re 148-149, 209, 260; ip-2 240-241; w97 5/1 19-20; w96 2/15 13-15; w89 5/1 3-5, 14; w88 9/15 15; ws 33-35, 129-130

    Christendom a part of: rs 52-53

    confusion as to gods worshipped: w88 1/15 13

    corruption of Christian congregation: re 208; w89 4/15 5-6

    desolation:
    literal: re 269-270

    spiritual: re 261

    destruction: re 256-275; ip-2 105-119; g96 11/8 7-8; w93 5/1 24-25; sh 370-371; w89 4/15 10-16; w89 5/15 5-7; w88 12/15 22-23; g88 4/8 16; tp 32; ws 29-37, 148-151

    by Greater Cyrus: w87 9/1 27-28; ws 148-149, 151

    by political powers: re 256-258; w04 2/1 21; dp 281-282; w94 3/1 20; w89 5/15 5-6; g89 12/8 23-24, 27; ws 36-37; g86 4/22 24
    “do to her twice as much” (Re 18:6): re 265-266

    everlasting: re 269, 272-273

    evidence of impending: w87 11/1 27-28

    faith during: w91 9/15 16

    first phase of “great tribulation”: w97 4/1 14-15; w96 8/15 19

    foregleam in French Revolution: g89 12/22 26-28

    “great city split” (Re 16:19): re 234

    “happy” one who accomplishes (Ps 137:8, 9): ws 148-149, 151

    mourning over: re 267-268; it-1 240-241

    pictured by eradication of Baal worship: w05 12/15 27-29

    pictured by Jericho’s: w86 12/15 18-19

    public stripping: re 256-257; w88 10/15 16-17

    rejoicing over: re 268-269, 272-275; w89 4/15 16

    sequel to: g88 4/8 16

    smoke ascends forever (Re 19:3): re 272-273

    viewed as a city: re 258-266

    development: re 13-14; w89 4/15 4-6

    discussion: re 235-276; g96 11/8 4-8; w89 4/15 3-23; rs 49-53; it-1 239-241

    ‘disgusting things’: it-1 635

    ‘golden cup full of’ (Re 17:4): re 245; w89 4/15 13

    “mother of” (Re 17:5): w08 6/15 9; re 244; w89 4/1 3; it-1 615

    drunkenness: re 245; it-1 241, 657

    enmity for true worship: w89 4/1 8-9; it-1 809

    God’s woman her main target: re 208-209

    fall (Isa 21:9): w00 1/1 8; ip-1 223-224
    fall (Isa 26:5, 6): ip-1 277, 279
    fall (Re 14:8; 18:2): re 205-209, 259-261; w05 10/1 24; dp 112; w96 4/15 11; si 266-267; w89 4/1 21; w89 4/15 4-9; w89 5/1 3-5; w88 12/15 20-21; ws 34-35

    link with Jeremiah’s prophecies: it-2 34

    friend of the world: ws 30-32

    “get out of her” (Re 18:4): w06 3/15 28-29; re 265-266; w05 10/1 24; bh 152-153; kp 12-14; ol 21; g96 11/8 8-9; kl 125-126; w89 4/15 7-9; rs 53; tp 32; ws 32-34

    courage to do so: w94 9/15 26

    early Bible Students: jv 51-52, 188-189

    employment: w99 4/15 28-30

    helping others: w08 6/15 9; km 4/89 1-2

    ‘handwriting on the wall’ applied to: w87 9/1 24-28

    harlot: w89 4/1 3-6; it-1 809

    identified: re 14, 205-206, 235-236; bh 152, 219-220; kp 12-13; g96 11/8 4-7; kl 125; jv 147-148; sh 368-370; w89 4/1 3-9; w89 4/15 4-5; w89 5/1 3; pe 209-210; rs 49-53; it-1 239-241

    not Rome: it-1 240

    view in book Enemies: jv 84

    view of Bible Students: jv 51-52, 160, 189, 647

    insecurity: ws 30-32

    judgment against: w05 10/1 24; kp 12-14; ip-1 188; w94 3/1 20; w89 5/1 5-7; w89 5/15 3-7; it-2 136-137

    proclamation: w90 3/1 26-29
    “kingdom over the kings of the earth” (Re 17:18): g96 11/8 5-6

    loss of favored position with nations: re 260; w89 5/15 6

    Greek Orthodox Church loses control of estates and investments: re 229

    Italian legislators press for ability to prosecute Holy See: w88 1/15 19

    ‘merchants became rich’ (Re 18:3): re 264

    religious commercialization (Italy): w89 12/15 29

    mother:
    “children” (Ps 137:9): ws 148-150
    ‘of harlots, disgusting things’ (Re 17:5): re 244; w89 4/1 3; it-1 615
    mystery: re 243-244; w89 4/15 13-14

    name on forehead: re 243-244; it-1 849

    part of Serpent’s seed: re 13-14, 101-102; it-2 887

    presumptuousness: it-2 681

    relationship to ancient Babylon: re 13-14, 235-236, 250; ip-1 216; w89 4/15 4-5; rs 49-52; it-1 239-240

    image processions: w89 4/1 7

    mother goddess: w89 4/1 7-8

    Rome a world center: w88 12/15 20-21

    scarlet-colored wild beast ridden: re 240-258; w89 4/15 14; ws 35-36

    “shameless luxury” (Re 18:3): w89 4/1 5-6

    “sits on many waters” (Re 17:1, 15): re 238-240, 256; w89 4/15 7-8

    dropping of waters: re 229-230, 240, 260-261; w89 5/1 5

    “spiritistic practice” (Re 18:23): sh 369; w89 5/1 6-7; w89 5/15 5

    spiritual fornication: re 207-208, 243-245, 262, 272; sh 370; w89 4/15 3-4, 8; w88 12/15 21-22; it-1 240, 864

    reflected in literal fornication: w89 4/15 3, 8-9

    “wine of” (Re 14:8; 17:2): re 207-208, 235, 239-240, 245, 261-263; w89 4/15 8; w88 12/15 21

    with kings: re 235-238, 240, 261-263; w89 4/1 3, 5-6; w89 4/15 10-12, 22-23
    “town of the tyrannical nations” (Isa 25:3): w01 3/1 14-15; ip-1 271-272; w88 1/15 12

    understanding clarified (1963): jv 147-148
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    20 Mar '12 21:15
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    http://www.texemarrs.com/032011/solving_mystery_babylon.htm

    P.S. Any comments?
    Comments: You need higher standards for the "experts" you appeal to. Texe Marrs is a known conspiracy nut. Don't believe everything you read.
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    20 Mar '12 21:30
    Originally posted by epiphinehas
    Comments: You need higher standards for the "experts" you appeal to. Texe Marrs is a known conspiracy nut. Don't believe everything you read.
    Hey, RJ is revealing his spiritual sources to be newer than that Russell guy who he says is too new and was too young. Don't make him turn off the tap.
  5. Standard memberRJHinds
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    21 Mar '12 01:231 edit
    Originally posted by epiphinehas
    Comments: You need higher standards for the "experts" you appeal to. Texe Marrs is a known conspiracy nut. Don't believe everything you read.
    When I reference a site it is to put forth an idea, not to endorse everything that
    is written there or everything the writer believes. I do not even understand the
    book of Revelation that well. Someone else brought up this subject earlier but
    never finished it. I was writing on another thread that I seemed inspired to
    quote a passage from 2 Thessalonians 2, which brought this subject back to my
    mind. This is the article I came up with when I googled it. I have made no
    comment to endorse it completely or the author. That is why I asked for comments.
    But I was not referring to the author, but to the subject matter. I am not at all
    interested in what anyone thinks of the author.
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    21 Mar '12 01:29
    Originally posted by galveston75
    No it's not just the Catholic church but all false religion. If you see anything you are curious about here let me know as we've done a little research on who it is......


    "BABYLON THE GREAT"

    (See also Babylon [City]; Babylon [Empire]; Religion; Restoration)
    abhorrence by Jehovah’s Witnesses: w89 4/15 18-23
    ado ...[text shortened]... 5:3): w01 3/1 14-15; ip-1 271-272; w88 1/15 12

    understanding clarified (1963): jv 147-148
    This doesn't explain anything to me or anyone else here that might be interested.
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    21 Mar '12 04:30
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    When I reference a site it is to put forth an idea, not to endorse everything that
    is written there or everything the writer believes. I do not even understand the
    book of Revelation that well. Someone else brought up this subject earlier but
    never finished it. I was writing on another thread that I seemed inspired to
    quote a passage from 2 Thessaloni ...[text shortened]... or, but to the subject matter. I am not at all
    interested in what anyone thinks of the author.
    I wonder if the JWs are especially interested in what you think of Russell. But you went after Russell anyway.
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    21 Mar '12 05:59
    Originally posted by JS357
    I wonder if the JWs are especially interested in what you think of Russell. But you went after Russell anyway.
    I was not going after Russell. I believe he meant well. But he just was not
    qualified to lead a new denomination of Christianity and a cult resulted with
    many false beliefs. This was what I was trying to get across with the history
    lesson.
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    21 Mar '12 06:06
    Originally posted by galveston75
    No it's not just the Catholic church but all false religion. If you see anything you are curious about here let me know as we've done a little research on who it is......


    "BABYLON THE GREAT"

    (See also Babylon [City]; Babylon [Empire]; Religion; Restoration)
    abhorrence by Jehovah’s Witnesses: w89 4/15 18-23
    ado ...[text shortened]... 5:3): w01 3/1 14-15; ip-1 271-272; w88 1/15 12

    understanding clarified (1963): jv 147-148
    He said "Babylon" not babble on and on.
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    21 Mar '12 11:45
    Originally posted by ChessPraxis
    He said "Babylon" not babble on and on.
    You're a witty guy.. 😀
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    21 Mar '12 14:521 edit
    Originally posted by Rajk999
    You're a witty guy.. 😀
    nm
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    21 Mar '12 15:36
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    When I reference a site it is to put forth an idea, not to endorse everything that
    is written there or everything the writer believes. I do not even understand the
    book of Revelation that well. Someone else brought up this subject earlier but
    never finished it. I was writing on another thread that I seemed inspired to
    quote a passage from 2 Thessaloni ...[text shortened]... or, but to the subject matter. I am not at all
    interested in what anyone thinks of the author.
    So you don't understand Revelation that well? So considering that so much of Revelation is concerning the time period we live right now, would you think this is not a good thing for you especially in light that you say you preach and teach ones about the bible and you have this void in your teaching that shouldn't be there? So you are not qualified to teach out of the book of Revelation?


    2 Timothy 3:17
    Good News Translation (GNT)

    17 so that the person who serves God may be ""fully qualified"" and equipped to do every kind of good deed.


    I once had a Catholic priest tell me when I had knocked on his door, to close up my Bible as I was reading a scripture to him out of Revelation, to not even go to that book in the Bible as he and no one else could ever understand it.
    What? I almost laughed as he closed the door on me. Was he serious? He the supposed leader and minister in his church with who knows how many life's he was influancing with spiritual matters could not and would not discuss the book of Revelation with a 16 year old kid when I was there? How terribly sad that was that he would not even discuss or even take on a kid when speaking of the Bible and the book of Revelation.
    Unbelieveable.......
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    21 Mar '12 15:40
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    I was not going after Russell. I believe he meant well. But he just was not
    qualified to lead a new denomination of Christianity and a cult resulted with
    many false beliefs. This was what I was trying to get across with the history
    lesson.
    So you say..... Did you ever talk to the man? Ever ask him any questions and have an open book discussion with him with a bible? Ever see the research he and the other bible students that he was associated with did and why they learned what they did about the supposed Christian religions aroiund them that they knew something was wrong in their teachings?
    Hum? Sounds like your still judging doesn't it?
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    21 Mar '12 16:33
    Originally posted by galveston75
    So you don't understand Revelation that well? So considering that so much of Revelation is concerning the time period we live right now, would you think this is not a good thing for you especially in light that you say you preach and teach ones about the bible and you have this void in your teaching that shouldn't be there? So you are not qualified to te ...[text shortened]... e on a kid when speaking of the Bible and the book of Revelation.
    Unbelieveable.......
    Was that encounter formative for your outlook or opinion of anything?

    You might find the interpretation section found at:

    http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/01594b.htm

    to be of interest.

    BTW, "The Encyclopedia bears the imprimatur of the Most Reverend Archbishop under whose jurisdiction it is published."

    http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/

    Which is only to say, the encyclopedia bears the same degree of control by Satan as the rest of the RCC. 😉
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    Babylon in this context is Rome, the center of the at that time pagan Roman Empire. It is not the Catholics - the Catholics are the Roman Christians who were being persecuted.
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