Originally posted by twhitehead The message was not for members of the Church. It was for all those unsaved people who have not yet joined his Church. And since children are easier targets than adults especially when using scare tactics they would be the obvious first target. Though one wonders what good it does singing the hymn in Church.
Singing is fun! And the lyrics are funnier. In a church? It would be great! Bring the booze and the chicks and it's awesome.
Originally posted by twhitehead The message was not for members of the Church. It was for all those unsaved people who have not yet joined his Church. And since children are easier targets than adults especially when using scare tactics they would be the obvious first target. Though one wonders what good it does singing the hymn in Church.
It is a positive message about hope still remaining for us all...hymns are for churches to encourage,lift up and inspire... how nasty to think that giving children a religious background is "scare tactics".... good grief...you really are.....
Originally posted by Jay Joos It is a positive message about hope still remaining for us all...hymns are for churches to encourage,lift up and inspire... how nasty to think that giving children a religious background is "scare tactics".... good grief...you really are.....
I must agree giving a child a religious background can't be good. Children must have incentives to think freely without any dogmas. Teaching a child he must believe in God or else he'll go to hell, and to hurry before time expires can't be educative. Few children can recover from that trauma and have a free, independent thinking. Unless you truly believe that specific creed and you think you are saving the poor child by teaching her that religious stuff. If that path is to be the correct one, let the child decide it when he grows. Manipulating children to believe anything is easy, do you want to be that manipulative guy?
Originally posted by serigado I must agree giving a child a religious background can't be good. Children must have incentives to think freely without any dogmas. Teaching a child he must believe in God or else he'll go to hell, and to hurry before time expires can't be educative. Few children can recover from that trauma and have a free, independent thinking. Unless you truly believe th ...[text shortened]... . Manipulating children to believe anything is easy, do you want to be that manipulative guy?
let the child know of religion and let them decide as they grow...its the only way.
Originally posted by Jay Joos let the child know of religion and let them decide as they grow...its the only way.
Yes. I agree, let the child know there are religions, explain to them the different religions that exist and their viewpoints, explain them science and logical thinking and let them decide.
But you must agree this is not the thing that is done nowadays.
Originally posted by Jay Joos It is a positive message about hope still remaining for us all...hymns are for churches to encourage,lift up and inspire... how nasty to think that giving children a religious background is "scare tactics".... good grief...you really are.....
It is not a positive message and is not a religious background either. It is most definitely scare tactics. I have seen enough scare tactics by Christians against children to know that it is common place. I have experienced it personally and had people do it to my own child. When I question the scarrers in question they often admit that they do not believe what they are saying but believe that it is OK to lie and threaten if the result is bringing someone to God.
For example I once noticed my son hitting himself on the shoulder and he explained that his teacher had said that the devil is sitting on his shoulder.
Originally posted by silly mctall and do you look on them in a different light as you now follow Christianity? are they sinners? do you try and encourage them to follow a religion?
I respect them for what they are... yes they are sinners as are we all...i dont force what i believe onto them but every now and then i bring God forward in the hope that someday they might show an interest.
Originally posted by serigado Yes. I agree, let the child know there are religions, explain to them the different religions that exist and their viewpoints, explain them science and logical thinking and let them decide.
But you must agree this is not the thing that is done nowadays.
I agree it is not done nowadays and it really should...the child will know of his/hers parents religion but will have a choice...no matter what they decide the parents must respect that!!!
Originally posted by twhitehead It is not a positive message and is not a religious background either. It is most definitely scare tactics. I have seen enough scare tactics by Christians against children to know that it is common place. I have experienced it personally and had people do it to my own child. When I question the scarrers in question they often admit that they do not believ ...[text shortened]... e shoulder and he explained that his teacher had said that the devil is sitting on his shoulder.
Very extreme.... i have not personally experienced this in any way... what do they say to your child? these scarers are not true believers...
The teacher isn't very good at their job...obviously didn't explain what they said to your child well enough!
Originally posted by twhitehead It is not a positive message and is not a religious background either. It is most definitely scare tactics. I have seen enough scare tactics by Christians against children to know that it is common place. I have experienced it personally and had people do it to my own child. When I question the scarrers in question they often admit that they do not believ ...[text shortened]... e shoulder and he explained that his teacher had said that the devil is sitting on his shoulder.
You should have told your son to quit being so arrogant. Who does he think he is, that the ruler of this world would waste the precious time he has left by sitting on the shoulder of some no-account kid suffering through math class?
The nerve!
Originally posted by FreakyKBH You should have told your son to quit being so arrogant. Who does he think he is, that the ruler of this world would waste the precious time he has left by sitting on the shoulder of some no-account kid suffering through math class?
The nerve!
Your not helping and a little out of line there...
Originally posted by FreakyKBH You should have told your son to quit being so arrogant. Who does he think he is, that the ruler of this world would waste the precious time he has left by sitting on the shoulder of some no-account kid suffering through math class?
The nerve!
If you're trying to be funny, you're not.
If you're serious, you're the one who should "quite being so arrogant." The attitude you've displayed here is despicable.
26 Oct '07 07:57
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