Beetles and Creationism

Originally posted by Coletti
Little guys like you should stay out of the open where they risk getting stepped on. Best to avoid facts you know you can not openly deny.

maggots like you should hatch and fly over to the nearest pile and feast

Originally posted by nickybutt
The site talks about 16,000 animals, however I am talking about 800,000 beetles. Can you see the difference? Please explain that!

still waiting... 😴

Originally posted by nickybutt
still waiting... 😴

So you don't think that 800,000 beetles could fit on the ark?

Originally posted by dj2becker
So you don't think that 800,000 beetles could fit on the ark?

The story of dj2becker and the circulating questions...
You've asked me the same question earlier in the thread, and back then I replied. Since I know it is extreme difficult for you to find anything other than bigotry religious babble, I'll post it for you again:

Originally posted by dj2becker
O.K. Maybe I spoke too fast. Let me re-phrase myself. I was not there, so I don't know for sure. Do you have any problem with 800,000 beetles on Noah's ark?

Originally posted by nickybutt
Sure I have a problem with that. Beetles don't travel well over long distances, so Noah needed to collect them. How did Noah collect 400,000 different kinds of beetles from all over the world? And all the other insects as well...

Adding to this, I also have a problem with housing 800,000 beetles on a ship for an entire year. Many beetles are higly specialised and need very specific living conditions to survive. An overcramped ship with thousands of mammels isn't the best place to keep any animal alive.

Originally posted by nickybutt
The story of dj2becker and the circulating questions...
You've asked me the same question earlier in the thread, and back then I replied. Since I know it is extreme difficult for you to find anything other than bigotry religious babble, ...[text shortened]... nds of mammels isn't the best place to keep any animal alive.[/b]

You're begging the question. What's wrong with a little divine intervention here? We are talking about acts of God, the creator of the universe. Isn't it unreasonable to place human limitations on God's handiwork? Your problems are problems only if you reject divine intervention to begin with - which is what you are trying to desided.

Originally posted by Coletti
You're begging the question. What's wrong with a little divine intervention here? We are talking about acts of God, the creator of the universe. Isn't it unreasonable to place human limitations on God's handiwork? Your problems are problems only if you reject divine intervention to begin with - which is what you are trying to desided.

LOL, yeah you're right about that.
If God existed I would probably have no problems with the story. But as you've probable guessed by now, I don't believe in God, so how could he intervene? And it doens't really say anything about divine intervention in the Bible does it? (having just reread the tale of Noah's ark)

Anyway, I'm mainly debating in here because of the religious attacks on the Theory of Evolution. These attack usually pass themselves of as scientific objections when really the main objection is the unabiblity of the Bible to explain the world within the scientific field.
So when you and others, try to pass on the stories in the Bible of as truthful stories, and at the same time try to pass the stories of as science, it bothers me. Perhaps, much the same way, I guess, it bothers you, that I keep rejecting the idea of God.
Religion is a totally seperate academic field, and should stay away from the scientific area. If you do that, then I'll be glad to leave you alone, with your 800,000 beetles on a boat in a year.

So my main objection isn't really the tale of the flood, nor the Bible itself. There are plenty of very good things about how to live your life in the Bible (along with some not so good things, luckily these are mainly ignored).