03 Nov 06
What can we learn from Ted Haggard, the former president of the National Association of Evangelicals? It appears that he is acknowledging "some" truth to the accusations around his soliciting a male prostitute. He was influential in opposing same sex marriages, homosexuality, and various other causes of the conservative evangelical church.
03 Nov 06
Originally posted by kirksey957...yo...every christian who lives by the spirit is evangelical...yo...
What can we learn from Ted Haggard, the former president of the National Association of Evangelicals? It appears that he is acknowledging "some" truth to the accusations around his soliciting a male prostitute. He was influential in opposing same sex marriages, homosexuality, and various other causes of the conservative evangelical church.
03 Nov 06
Originally posted by kirksey957He protested too much, no?
What can we learn from Ted Haggard, the former president of the National Association of Evangelicals? It appears that he is acknowledging "some" truth to the accusations around his soliciting a male prostitute. He was influential in opposing same sex marriages, homosexuality, and various other causes of the conservative evangelical church.
Yeah, he says that he was using drugs and got a 'massage' from this guy. The prostitute, however,
claims that it was a three-year relationship.
Priceless.
03 Nov 06
Originally posted by kirksey957"In general, it is a strange demand on a moralist that he should commend no other virtue than that which he himself possesses."
What can we learn from Ted Haggard, the former president of the National Association of Evangelicals? It appears that he is acknowledging "some" truth to the accusations around his soliciting a male prostitute. He was influential in opposing same sex marriages, homosexuality, and various other causes of the conservative evangelical church.
-- Schopenhauer
03 Nov 06
Originally posted by Pawnokeyhole"But, my good brother, do not , as some ungracious pastors do, show me the steep and thorny way to heaven; whiles. like a puff'ed and reckless libertine, himself the primrose path of dalliance treads, and recks not his own rede (follows not his own counsel)."
"In general, it is a strange demand on a moralist that he should commend no other virtue than that which he himself possesses."
-- Schopenhauer
Shakespeare, from Hamlet
03 Nov 06
Originally posted by kirksey957That pride comes before a fall? There's no business like show business? Birds of a feather stick together? Oh, we give up! What lessons can we learn from Ted Haggard, the former president of the NAE, in this open challenge to his integrity? Hmm?
What can we learn from Ted Haggard, the former president of the National Association of Evangelicals? It appears that he is acknowledging "some" truth to the accusations around his soliciting a male prostitute. He was influential in opposing same sex marriages, homosexuality, and various other causes of the conservative evangelical church.
04 Nov 06
Originally posted by kirksey957It just means he has no excuse, he says he knows right from wrong
What can we learn from Ted Haggard, the former president of the National Association of Evangelicals? It appears that he is acknowledging "some" truth to the accusations around his soliciting a male prostitute. He was influential in opposing same sex marriages, homosexuality, and various other causes of the conservative evangelical church.
therefore, if that guys does not get saved he will stand in his own
righteousness condemned.
Kelly
04 Nov 06
Originally posted by FreakyKBHI like what I'm hearing so far. The prohibition seems to be the invitation to many of these evangelicals.
That pride comes before a fall? There's no business like show business? Birds of a feather stick together? Oh, we give up! What lessons can we learn from Ted Haggard, the former president of the NAE, in this open challenge to his integrity? Hmm?
04 Nov 06
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Originally posted by kirksey957Whether or not the man believes what he preaches and went against those beliefs or whether he preaches what he does not really believe, either way I find the whole scenerio a very sad affair. As far as his ministry goes, I think it safe to assume that it is through. It is a humbling reminder or the price of sin and of hypocrisy. If any good can come of this I say that good is that the man has the oppurtunity to realize his shortcomings now and atone for them now than to go to his grave without doing so. It also should wake up those that choose traverse a similar path as he chose.
What can we learn from Ted Haggard, the former president of the National Association of Evangelicals? It appears that he is acknowledging "some" truth to the accusations around his soliciting a male prostitute. He was influential in opposing same sex marriages, homosexuality, and various other causes of the conservative evangelical church.
04 Nov 06
Originally posted by kirksey957I first became aware of Mr. Haggard when I saw the movie, Jesus Camp. He was prominently featured in parts of it. A sanctimonious evangelist if ever there was one. So you can scarcely imagine the delight I found in seeing his recent fall from grace. Especially since it comes a mere week before the midterm elections. Maybe there is hope after all.
What can we learn from Ted Haggard, the former president of the National Association of Evangelicals? It appears that he is acknowledging "some" truth to the accusations around his soliciting a male prostitute. He was influential in opposing same sex marriages, homosexuality, and various other causes of the conservative evangelical church.