07 Jun 07
You claim that my views on euthanasia are similar to those advocated by the Nazis prior to WW2. So, I challenge you to cite one proposition that meets the following three criteria:
1) The proposition has something to do with the moral status euthanasia broadly construed.
2) The proposition is one that both I accept and that there is good evidence that the Nazis accepted during the interval in question.
3) The proposition is such that there are good reasons for thinking that it is false.
Until you can do this, I don't think anybody here will be disposed to take your ravings seriously.
07 Jun 07
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Originally posted by bbarrWhy do you adress me as "Mt Ivanhoe" ?
You claim that my views on euthanasia are similar to those advocated by the Nazis prior to WW2. So, I challenge you to cite one proposition that meets the following three criteria:
1) The proposition has something to do with the moral status euthanasia broadly construed.
2) The proposition is one that both I accept and that there is good evidence that ...[text shortened]... il you can do this, I don't think anybody here will be disposed to take your ravings seriously.
If you wanted a serious discussion the thread's title was badly chosen. But all right, let's continue in the same spirit then ... BigBoyBbarr .....
07 Jun 07
Originally posted by bbarrI present historical facts in the thread "First they came ..... "
You claim that my views on euthanasia are similar to those advocated by the Nazis prior to WW2. So, I challenge you to cite one proposition that meets the following three criteria:
1) The proposition has something to do with the moral status euthanasia broadly construed.
2) The proposition is one that both I accept and that there is good evidence that ...[text shortened]... il you can do this, I don't think anybody here will be disposed to take your ravings seriously.
07 Jun 07
Originally posted by bbarrWhy is it you choose such a dominating and forcing approach when you are cornered ? As I said earlier I present historic facts which prove the resemblance between your ideas and the Nazis' regarding the killing of certain disabled people.
What proposition meets the criteria above?
What proposition do you have in mind ? I do not know what you are trying to prove. Since when is the issue in the thread "First they came ... " your stance on euthanasia as such ? The thread is about killing disabled people.
07 Jun 07
Originally posted by bbarrYour criteria are not clear to me I must say. In particular the first and the last ones are rather foggy .... to say the least.
You claim that my views on euthanasia are similar to those advocated by the Nazis prior to WW2. So, I challenge you to cite one proposition that meets the following three criteria:
1) The proposition has something to do with the moral status euthanasia broadly construed.
2) The proposition is one that both I accept and that there is good evidence that ...[text shortened]... il you can do this, I don't think anybody here will be disposed to take your ravings seriously.
07 Jun 07
Originally posted by ivanhoeBut that's just it, they don't prove a resemblance, you infer the resemblance.
Why is it you choose such a dominating and forcing approach when you are cornered ? As I said earlier I present historic facts which prove the resemblance between your ideas and the Nazis' regarding the killing of certain disabled people.
What proposition do you have in mind ? I do not know what you are trying to prove. Since when is the issue in the th ...[text shortened]... y came ... " your stance on euthanasia as such ? The thread is about killing disabled people.
07 Jun 07
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Originally posted by bbarrIvanhoe: "But I do, please read my posts."
Then you should have no problem answering the question.
What I meant was that I do have problems answering your question. What "proposition" do you have in mind ? ... and please keep in mind that criterium #1 and #3 are rather foggy.
07 Jun 07
Originally posted by ivanhoeI'm afraid I'm not convinced, Ivanhoe, and I've read all of your and
But I do, please read my posts.
Bbarr's posts.
Obviously, you opine that you are right and that the connection is clear,
so perhaps you will offer a refresher rather than refer us back to what
we feel is obscure and specious reasonsing.
Nemesio
07 Jun 07
Originally posted by StarrmanVerb: infer (inferred,inferring) in'fur
But that's just it, they don't prove a resemblance, you infer the resemblance.
Reason by deduction; establish by deduction
- deduce, deduct, derive
Draw from specific cases for more general cases
- generalize, generalise [Brit], extrapolate
Conclude by reasoning; in logic
- deduce
Guess correctly; solve by guessing
- guess
Believe to be the case
- understand
Derived forms: infers, inferred, inferring
See also: inference
Type of: believe, conclude, figure out, lick, puzzle out, reason, reason out, solve, work, work out
Encyclopedia: Infer
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I infer the resemblance ? Can you elaborate ?
07 Jun 07
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Originally posted by NemesioIf you think certain statements or comments are "obscure" or "specious" you can adress this in the thread "First they came .... ", where I posted them.
I'm afraid I'm not convinced, Ivanhoe, and I've read all of your and
Bbarr's posts.
Obviously, you opine that you are right and that the connection is clear,
so perhaps you will offer a refresher rather than refer us back to what
we feel is obscure and specious reasonsing.
Nemesio
07 Jun 07
Originally posted by Nemesio... since when are you speaking in this debate on behalf of a collectivity called "we". Who is that "we" ?
I'm afraid I'm not convinced, Ivanhoe, and I've read all of your and
Bbarr's posts.
Obviously, you opine that you are right and that the connection is clear,
so perhaps you will offer a refresher rather than refer us back to what
we feel is obscure and specious reasonsing.
Nemesio