Originally posted by shavixmir
I do believe I know various christians who are trying to force laws against abortion and so, based on rubbish that was written thousands of years ago...
So that is your beef with Chrisitians? Need I remind you that this issue is not one based soley upon religion. It is a question of science as well. Is it or is it not a human being? That is the question. Assuming they "proved" to you that it was a human being, would you then be in favor of making it illegal? It seems to me that ALL morals are based upon morality. If it is a human being who says that is a good enough reason to not kill it? In fact, why not just kill anyone that looks at you funny? Why is it immoral? Our laws, for good or bad, state that murder is wrong. If the unborn is a human being then they should be covered by such laws as well, no?
I am not attempting to create a thread about morality, rather, I am simply pointing out that ALL laws are based upon some kind of morality and as members within a particular society we are obligated to put our two cents in. If we don't then thats our bad. Then when it is all said and done that society will vote upon which morality is favored as a consensus and turn them into law. So long as we all obey the laws of the land and pay our taxes this is our right no matter if we are religious or not religious. Just because you do not hold to a particular religion in no way indicates that your morality is better than mine, does it?
Having said all of that, it seems to me that it all boils down to tolerance. Granted, I know of some intolerant and obnoxious religious folk that is comparible to your intolerance for religion in general, however, that does not mean that either position is preferable. It seems to me that Christ was the most tolerant person on the face of the planet. I mean, just look at what they did to him and look at his response to it. Father forgive them for they know not what they do? I just hope you would not be one of those intolerant folk spitting on him and demanding that he be killed. As for me, he is my example through which I live my life. Why is that so bad?