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Calling out Sonship on the trinity and salvation

Calling out Sonship on the trinity and salvation

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Dovegeester,
Do you believe in Christ's Redemption through the shedding of His blood?

Your opposition to a simple beloved hymn about the blood of Jesus made me wonder.



Yesterday I was stuck in traffic for over an hour and a half in one spot on the
interstate trying to get home. Found this on YouTube just be flipping through
the various options. Thought about this thread, if anyone interested this guy
was pretty good never heard of him before.


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@kellyjay said
Yesterday I was stuck in traffic for over an hour and a half in one spot on the
interstate trying to get home. Found this on YouTube just be flipping through
the various options. Thought about this thread, if anyone interested this guy
was pretty good never heard of him before.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Rnp9eGu-kg
Part two of that talk


@KellyJay

Very Good.


@sonship said
@KellyJay

Very Good.
I never heard a sermon on the topic, this was very good.

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If anyone has actually watched both videos I would like to hear your thoughts. I enjoyed them both not sure which one I liked more. He brought out some points I wasn’t aware of.

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" ... if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ he is not of Him"


That is Romans 8:9b. I think it means "If anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ he is not of [Christ]".

But according to the passage "the Spirit of Christ" is the same as "the Spirit of God". Sure He is. Look -

But you are not in the flesh, but in the spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Yet is anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ he is not of Him. [Christ]


But wait. The Spirit of Christ is Christ Himself according to the same passage.

"Yet if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not of Him [Christ]. But if Christ is in you, ..."


This is rather mysterious. To be "of [Christ]" a person must have dwelling within him Christ who is "the Spirit of Christ" who is also "the Spirit of God". Wonderful.

But wait. The Spirit of Christ and Christ is ALSO ... "the Spirit of the One who raised Jesus from the dead" !

"But if Christ is in you, ... And if the Spirit of the One who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you ..."


You mean Christ is the Spirit of the One Who raised Jesus from the dead? How can that possibly be?
Well it is. And even though someone with Jesus within says " I don't believe in the doctrine of the Trinity" he has the Trinity whether he likes it or not if -

the Spirit of God dwells in him who is the Spirit of Christ who is Christ who is the Spirit of the One who raised Jesus from the dead.

"But I received Christ as Lord. And I don't believe in the doctrine of the Trinity".

Don't look now but receiving Jesus Christ is receiving the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
That is the Triune God.


Have you watched the videos?

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@KellyJay
I watched about half, enjoyed it. And I remarked that it was good. I trusted some that I have not yet finished seeing.

What I saw was good.
I am viewing more now.
I regard the words of the Bible higher then words of creeds.
I just said "higher."


@sonship said
@KellyJay
I watched about half, enjoyed it. And I remarked that it was good. I trusted some that I have not yet finished seeing.

What I saw was good.
I am viewing more now.
I regard the words of the Bible higher then words of creeds.
I just said "higher."
I thought it got better as it went on. Never heard of this guy before but admire him now.

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