It seems that John is saying that it is indeed likely.
For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist... He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed. (2 John 1:7-10KJV)
Here John states two ways of knowing who is a deceiver and an antichrist:
1. those that say Christ did not come in the flesh, or
2. those who do not bring [preach/teach/believe in] the doctrine of Christ.
No 1 seems easy to spot. A man says Christ never came or never existed, no such person, then I guess he can qualify.
No 2 is more hidden and deceptive. Like the wolves in sheeps clothing these Christians profess to know Christ but in their doctrine they deny Him. They do not bring the doctrine of Christ of brotherly love, charity and goodworks. The do not teach the commandments of Christ. They say things like 'accept Christ with your mouth and you will be saved and saved eternally. They also condemn the following of Christ commandments as 'works salvation', as 'keeping the law'. or as unecessary, and an insult to Christ sacrifice. They therefore actively discourage people from following the commandments Christ gave.
John further explains:
2Jn 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
The doctrine of Christ is an essential element in anyones salvation. If you do not believe it or teach it, then chances are that Christ may consider you a deceiver or an antichrist.
Originally posted by Rajk999tosh
It seems that John is saying that it is indeed likely.
[i]For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist... He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not int ...[text shortened]... lieve it or teach it, then chances are that Christ may consider you a deceiver or an antichrist.
Originally posted by redbadgerWell clearly you dont like my interpretation. Your hostile comment leads me to think that you are a Christian who dont like the doctrine of Christ ie brotherly love, good works and following of commandments.
your pithy interpretation of it is bulldust
However all that is beside the point. The point is do you have a comment of the passage by John pertaining to antichrist?
Originally posted by Rajk999rajk666
Well clearly you dont like my interpretation. Your hostile comment leads me to think that you are a Christian who dont like the doctrine of Christ ie brotherly love, good works and following of commandments.
However all that is beside the point. The point is do you have a comment of the passage by John pertaining to antichrist?
-Removed-I guess thats like staunch Roman Catholics saying that the whole idea of RC priests also being child-molesters is an oxymoron? Therefore it cannot happen? Yep .. makes sense
Clearly you are into 'labels' and 'titles'. Nowadays, A Christian by definition is one who professes to be such. There are about 2.5 billion I think of them. John is not interested in labels and titles but instead identified two types of people:
1. those who bring with them, abideth in, or preach the doctrine of Christ. of brotherly love and good works.
2. those who do not, ie they trangresseth, they do not know God - they are deceivers and antichrist.
These days many claim to be Christian but they also speaks evil of the doctrine of Christ and refer to it as
- works righteousness
- law keeping
- self-righteousness
- hypocritical
- trying to earn ones salvation
- insulting to Christ death and resurrection.
The sum of all of that is in effect preaching that good works are a sin, and one should resist good works and keeping of Christ commandments.
Which group are you in?
Me? Im with Christ and the doctrine of Christ.