Originally posted by generalissimoSorry replying to lots of people on this post.
who said anything about mixing?
the question is whether they can coexist.
Yes Catholics are free to choose, but should choose to be creationists.
No most Catholics always have and always will obey the Pope.
Yes but a Ape can never comprehend that 2+2=4.
No God's control of all.
They can coexist but shouldn't
Yes I'm catholic
Originally posted by daniel58Well, technically we are apes - you and me. We are in the Ape family. So can you never comprehend that 2+2=4?
Yes but a Ape can never comprehend that 2+2=4.
Apes have been able to learn to communicate with humans
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_ape_language
... how do you really know that they couldn't comprehend that 2+2 =4 ??
New research in Science reveals that children and apes are on par when it comes to straight numerical and spatial abilities, but when they're tested on social learning, the children excel.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/podcast/episode.cfm?id=DC374F21-E7F2-99DF-39889C0916C47A34
This is just one study so it's not conclusive, but still... it's evidence that apes share some skills with us.
Originally posted by PsychoPawnThey share some skills with us, but we are not in the ape family, no genetic blood-relation no "missing link", Genesis, chapter 2, verse 20; "And Adam called all the beasts by their names, and all the fowls of the air, and all the cattle of the field: but for Adam there not found a helper like himself".
Well, technically we are apes - you and me. We are in the Ape family. So can you never comprehend that 2+2=4?
Apes have been able to learn to communicate with humans
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_ape_language
... how do you really know that they couldn't comprehend that 2+2 =4 ??
[i]New research in Science reveals that children and ape ...[text shortened]... tudy so it's not conclusive, but still... it's evidence that apes share some skills with us.
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Originally posted by daniel58How about a factual reference? I.e. not the bible.
They share some skills with us, but we are not in the ape family, no genetic blood-relation no "missing link", Genesis, chapter 2, verse 20; "And Adam called all the beasts by their names, and all the fowls of the air, and all the cattle of the field: but for Adam there not found a helper like himself".
We are in the ape family - the evidence doesn't lie.
Originally posted by PsychoPawnadapted to feed themselves not to learn.
None of that explains any kind of flaw in evolution.
We humans have gained knowledge... how does that mean that we are not an animal? We use tools and there are apes that also have the knowledge to use tools - yes, they aren't as complex, but they also have shown the ability to learn just like us.
Animals have adapted and yes, we have adapted - so that's a similarity, not a difference.
Originally posted by KellyJayno its not. we go by a 24 hour clock, set by the rotation of the earth. our lives are short. god needs no time scale and is eternal, so his day is not our day, i think the planet jupiter [tho someone will correct me if i am wrong] takes more than 24 hous to rotate, about 48 to my memory, that would be one day on that planet.
His seven days is our seven days too.
Kelly
Originally posted by daniel581. you gotta be retarded to be creationinst, because being creationist means you prefer to ignore science and live in ignorance.
Sorry replying to lots of people on this post.
Yes Catholics are free to choose, but should choose to be creationists.
No most Catholics always have and always will obey the Pope.
Yes but a Ape can never comprehend that 2+2=4.
No God's control of all.
They can coexist but shouldn't
Yes I'm catholic
2.well, you obviously don't.
3.who told you that? how do you know? some apes know how to play chess, did you know that?
4. "they can coexist but shouldn't" doesn't mean anything. are you saying that its ok to believe in science but at the same time it isn't? make your mind up.
5. and yet you prefer to act like an evangelical, hmm, how strange.
Originally posted by stokerYour answer doesn't make sense.
adapted to feed themselves not to learn.
They have tools and learned to use and make them.
I'm not saying that we aren't the smartest creatures on earth, but it's a lie to say that other animals can't learn or can't make tools.
Originally posted by generalissimo1. you gotta be retarded to be creationinst, because being creationist means you prefer to ignore science and live in ignorance.
1. you gotta be retarded to be creationinst, because being creationist means you prefer to ignore science and live in ignorance.
2.well, you obviously don't.
3.who told you that? how do you know? some apes know how to play chess, did you know that?
4. "they can coexist but shouldn't" doesn't mean anything. are you saying that its ok to believe ...[text shortened]... make your mind up.
5. and yet you prefer to act like an evangelical, hmm, how strange.
I have to disagree on that point. Most ordinary people do not accept evolution on intellectual grounds, weighing the evidence. I sure did not. I am probably just as misinformed as any creationist. So whether or not someone rejects evolutionary theory is not really an accurate measure of their intelligence. Most people just accept it on the basis of faith that scientists have conducted their research thoroughly and objectively.
If we were to accuse creationists of anything it would have to be just sheer arrogance and lack of intellectual integrity. If you are ignorant about a topic and have not read the arguments on both sides, but then loud-mouthedly decry your own opinion in the face of learned opposition, then you are just being arrogant. There must be a lot of hubris in someone who says that the biologists, who have spent years on training and research, are wrong.
Originally posted by KellyJayOn the 4th day, God created the Sun, Moon and Stars. So, 3 days and nights passed before the Earth ever made a single revolution around the Sun.
His seven days is our seven days too.
Kelly
That's the first suggestion that God's days are not our days.
The second suggestion is from the lips of St. Peter:
"But do not overlook this one fact, beloved, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day."
That seems to imply that God's time and our time are not even comparable.