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can you die after death?

can you die after death?

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Originally posted by EcstremeVenom
if reincarnation is true, obviously im not enlightened, but how do you know who is enlightened and what is true?
you're getting closer ... I don't know what is true!

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Originally posted by amannion
you're getting closer ... I don't know what is true!
you have to know what is true to know who is enlightened, the enlightened one is the one who is right.

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Originally posted by EcstremeVenom
you have to know what is true to know who is enlightened, the enlightened one is the one who is right.
No, the enlightened one is the one who accepts that there are unknowns.
We can never know for sure about the existence of a God or otherwise and anyone who claims otherwise is fooling themselves. But we can accept our lack of knowledge on these matters.
We can take a position sure - I don't believe, you do, that's cool.
But all the time accepting that your belief is based on uncertainty.

That's enlightenment.

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Originally posted by EcstremeVenom
thats kinda sad
Far, far less sad than the idea of Hell.

Actually I can't see anything sad with the Buddhist model.

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Originally posted by EcstremeVenom
who would like to repeat life over and over and over until enlightenment? some people would never reach enlightenment.
I wouldn't mind. Life is usually pretty good for most organisms.

I'd far rather that than the possibility of Hell.

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Originally posted by amannion
No, the enlightened one is the one who accepts that there are unknowns.
We can never know for sure about the existence of a God or otherwise and anyone who claims otherwise is fooling themselves. But we can accept our lack of knowledge on these matters.
We can take a position sure - I don't believe, you do, that's cool.
But all the time accepting that your belief is based on uncertainty.

That's enlightenment.
that is not enlightenment, you have to know what is right to be enlightened. you take the easy way out by not caring what is right.

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Originally posted by EcstremeVenom
that is not enlightenment, you have to know what is right to be enlightened. you take the easy way out by not caring what is right.
Whoever said anything about not caring what is right.
Of course I care.
And I think that my view of the world is the right one. But I'm not stupid enough, or arrogant enough, to know for sure - that's called doubt. You either have it or you're an idiot.
Since we can never prove our religious/spiritual viewpoints beyond the shadow of a doubt, there's always the chance that our belief is not the right one. How can we possibly move beyond this?
Well clearly we do, since most people get on with their lives pretty nicely, but philosophically I think the most enlightened position to take is that which accepts that our differing interpretations of reality will always exist and that we don't know which one if any is 'the right one'.
Think of it as being analogous to the wave-particle problem which plagued physics for centuries. Is light a wave or a particle? Both positions explain certain observations, but neither is able to be reconciled with the other - they can't both be right at the same time. And yet one without the other doesn't work either.
All of our ways of understanding the world, all of our beliefs, may be something like this. Right in their own way.
Enlightenment is about accepting this.
And then getting on with living your life ... going to school, getting laid, finding a job, meeting a nice girl/boy, settling down, having some kids, and so it goes ...

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oh my God. you don't die, you can't . it is spiritually impossible. debate that. Tell me right now that any of you conciensely belive that your spirit and your mind just go kaput when your organs give out? are you kidding me? the spirit is not coneected in anyway to the physical body parts that you were born with. This conversation needs to kick it uppa bit for me to get involved here. peace to all big b.

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Originally posted by biggest b
oh my God. you don't die, you can't . it is spiritually impossible. debate that. Tell me right now that any of you conciensely belive that your spirit and your mind just go kaput when your organs give out? are you kidding me? the spirit is not coneected in anyway to the physical body parts that you were born with. This conversation needs to kick it uppa bit for me to get involved here. peace to all big b.
scientists say there is no such thing as a spirit, and they have a pretty good arguement, the brain makes decisions not the spirit.

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Originally posted by biggest b
oh my God. you don't die, you can't . it is spiritually impossible. debate that. Tell me right now that any of you conciensely belive that your spirit and your mind just go kaput when your organs give out? are you kidding me? the spirit is not coneected in anyway to the physical body parts that you were born with. This conversation needs to kick it uppa bit for me to get involved here. peace to all big b.
What the hell does 'spiritually impossible' mean?

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when we die we go into the gates of heaven to see if our names are in the book of life if it is then you get to go into Heaven, but if it isn't then you go to Hell. Hell is the first death, but when God destroys Satan everybody in Hell and the devil will be thrown into the lake of burning fire. This is the second and final death. this is permanent. Hell is temporary

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Originally posted by grandslam842
when we die we go into the gates of heaven to see if our names are in the book of life if it is then you get to go into Heaven, but if it isn't then you go to Hell. Hell is the first death, but when God destroys Satan everybody in Hell and the devil will be thrown into the lake of burning fire. This is the second and final death. this is permanent. Hell is temporary
Well we may as well close this section of the forum now.
Grandslam has all the answers.

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is that good or bad? hopefully i answered everybodies questions. if you have more questions ask in forum

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Originally posted by grandslam842
is that good or bad? hopefully i answered everybodies questions. if you have more questions ask in forum
I think you've done everything necessary.
Feel free to not bother coming back.
Bye bye.

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Originally posted by lllaaaiiinnn
i am a buddhist\i believe in reincarnation\so you can die again & again\however, if you transcend birth & death, you are no longer subject to either\
What do you think the specifics of reincarnation are? Does anyone else have an opinion for or against it? (and no, I don't mean "it can't be true because it contradicts the bible"😉