Originally posted by galveston75I never said I was in favor of celibacy, personally I believe the church should change that policy, my point was that there is no link between celibacy and pedophilia.
Thanks and it only makes sense that if one is deprived of a natural God given desire, in time it can cause problems in many directions. If one decides on his own to not follow a life with a normal relationship and can do it, that is fine if they devote themselves to the ministry of God or whatever. But it is something that God does not require or command ...[text shortened]... e to do. After all marriage was the first institution he established for humans with Adam & Eve.
it only makes sense that if one is deprived of a natural God given desire
so you're saying that people should do whatever they desire to do just because its natural?
Originally posted by generalissimoDid I say that? Doesn't God in the Bible give many guidelines and rules on how to use those desires and the problems that arise if one does not?
I never said I was in favor of celibacy, personally I believe the church should change that policy, my point was that there is no link between celibacy and pedophilia.
[b] it only makes sense that if one is deprived of a natural God given desire
so you're saying that people should do whatever they desire to do just because its natural?[/b]
Originally posted by menace71Yes we do have a large problem with Religions that profess to be blessed and guided by God but in the meantime do not follow the simple requirements such as the teaching work that his Son Jesus told his followers to do. And on top of that cleary disregard the commands to not have idols in their positions for whatever use they have deamed fit, will kill another of their fellow brothers if their country and priest tell them to and even bless the weapons they use. And ones that have reinstated the clergy class that Jesus totally condemed and use the term "Father" in vain..
With all due respect JW's always have an anti-Catholic slant. They have the same issue among their ranks.
Manny
Thats just the surface.
Originally posted by trev33My two cents: Many of them went to high schools that were specifically designed for boys entering the priesthood. Thus they hit puberty surrounded by adolescent boys at the same time that they were being taught that females are the root of all evil. My impression from what I've read is that a number of those boys were abused during that time by men (or a man) who was entrusted with their education and care at those places (which are traditionally boarding schools, I think). Thus, if they were later told that they could marry, it would be too late for them to have a healthy sexual relationship with a woman, even if some latent desire was there.
if priests were allowed to marry/have sexual relations with whoever would the same molesting scandal have erupted over the past couple of years?
in other words, did the priests who committed the offences go into the catholic church as paedophiles or did they happen to mutate into that form through years of no sexual contact?
So I'm saying that I don't believe it's about celibacy per se, but about the experiences they had during their formation. If celibacy were the issue, than married people wouldn't be pedophiles.
Originally posted by galveston75Interesting, especially considering its coming from a follower of a cult, well-known for its heresies and nonsensical beliefs.
Yes we do have a large problem with Religions that profess to be blessed and guided by God but in the meantime do not follow the simple requirements such as the teaching work that his Son Jesus told his followers to do. And on top of that cleary disregard the commands to not have idols in their positions for whatever use they have deamed fit, will kill a ...[text shortened]... lass that Jesus totally condemed and use the term "Father" in vain..
Thats just the surface.
Originally posted by generalissimoWe don't fit the definition of a cult in any sense and you obviously don't know much about us by your comments. Just because you don't understand or refuse to understand does not make us a cult. Sorry.
look up in the dictionary if you don't know.
but seriously, do you deny this? its pretty obvious JWs are a bunch of heretical lunatics, whose beliefs are not only irrational but potentially dangerous.