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Originally posted by DoctorScribblesDoes it say he has been denied holy communion?
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2008/05/19/fryer.autistic.boy.banned.kare
Shouldn't it be unconscionable for them to deny such a person Holy Communion? He's just as God made him.
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Originally posted by DoctorScribblesWhy do you need a VIS article to answer the question? Does this newspiece state that the autistic boy has been denied communion?
I'm sure the forthcoming VIS article will fully disclose all of those details.
I assume you have watched it, so you ought to know.
20 May 08
Originally posted by DoctorScribblesFo rizzle! That boy is just like the Garasene demoniac that Jesus dealt with so effectively. Look, here's all they have to do. I could solve this problem in no time flat. What you do is you have to realize that this here boy ain't gonna be satisfied with some little crumb of a communion wafer. I'd give this boy a whole damn loaf of bread and his own damn bottle of wine. He would see that he is special. A boy like that needs more of whatever to feel special. Then I'd have a potted plant up front and tell him he can come up there and pee in it anytime he wants. And after he did that, I would have a little children's sermon about how God waters the earth to make things green so as to feed us. Then if he does all this and behaves himself, I'd give him like a Playboy magazine and tell him to go up in the balconey and occupy himself for being such a good boy. Chuuch!
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2008/05/19/fryer.autistic.boy.banned.kare
Shouldn't it be unconscionable for them to deny such a person Holy Communion? He's just as God made him.
20 May 08
Originally posted by Conrau KIt states that there is a standing court order sought by the Church forbidding the child to enter the church property where and when Communion is served. It does not state that the church's priest would serve Communion to the child elsewhere; rather, the mother indicates that they had to go to a different church altogether to receive Communion. If that's not denying Communion, then you're just playing Simon Says.
Why do you need a VIS article to answer the question? Does this newspiece state that the austic boy has been denied communion?
I assume you have watched it, so you ought to know.
20 May 08
Originally posted by Conrau KThey denied him entry into the church. They denied the family what we tend to think of as "the community of believers." I think that is very significant, don't you?
Why do you need a VIS article to answer the question? Does this newspiece state that the autistic boy has been denied communion?
I assume you have watched it, so you ought to know.
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Originally posted by DoctorScribblesSo it does not say he was denied communion? For all we know, alternative provisions could have been proposed.
It states that there is a standing court order sought by the Church forbidding the child to enter the church property where and when Communion is served. It does not state that the church's priest would serve Communion to the child elsewhere; rather, the mother indicates that they had to go to a different church altogether to receive Communion. If that's not denying Communion, then you're just playing Simon Says.
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Originally posted by kirksey957According to this article, the parish priest had attempted to accommodate for the boy. The family refused.
They denied him entry into the church. They denied the family what we tend to think of as "the community of believers." I think that is very significant, don't you?
They've suggested the family go to a different mass or sit somewhere else during mass, and they even suggested getting a mediator involved.
http://wcco.com/local/autistic.son.family.2.726391.html
And in this article,
In an affidavit, Walz said the church "explored and offered many options for accommodations that would assist the family while protecting the safety of parishioners. The family refused those offers of accommodation."
http://www.cathnews.com/article.aspx?aeid=7233
20 May 08
Originally posted by Conrau KIt says the sheriff was there ready to arrest the mother!
So it does not say he was denied communion? For all we know, alternative provisions could have been proposed.
If McDonald's refuses to allow a black man to eat in their indoor seating area and tells him instead that he must hide around the corner in the bushes and a cook will run his food out to him to eat where he won't make the white customers uncomfortable, would it be more accurate to say that this black man has been denied service or that alternate provisions have been proposed?
20 May 08
Originally posted by Conrau KDo you believe the outcome in this case was a "holy moment"?
According to this article, the parish priest had attempted to accommodate for the boy. The family refused.
They've suggested the family go to a different mass or sit somewhere else during mass, and they even suggested getting a mediator involved.
http://wcco.com/local/autistic.son.family.2.726391.html
And in this article,
In an affid ...[text shortened]... efused those offers of accommodation."
http://www.cathnews.com/article.aspx?aeid=7233
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Originally posted by DoctorScribblesThis is not an issue of segregation; the actions of the church are not based on arbitrary prejudice but on a need to protect parishioners.
It says the sheriff was there ready to arrest the mother!
If McDonald's refuses to allow a black man to eat in their indoor seating area and tells him instead that he must hide around the corner in the bushes and a cook will run his food out to him to eat where he won't make the white customers uncomfortable, would it be more accurate to say that this black man has been denied service or that alternate provisions have been proposed?
It might come as a surprise, but restraining orders tend to entail punitive measures against violations. That is what makes them effective.
20 May 08
Originally posted by Conrau KThis would be a wonderul opportunity to preach a sermon on rendering unto Caesar what belongs to Caesar and unto God what belongs to God.
This is not an issue of segregation; the actions of the church are not based on arbitrary prejudice but on a need to protect parishioners.
It might come as a surprise, but restraining orders tend to entail punitive measures against violations. That is what makes them effective.
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Originally posted by DoctorScribblesYo, Doc, check out this guy's sermon from the first words. I think this would be a good church for this family. What autistic kid couldn't get into this kind of worship. Just leave it to the black man to find Jesus in all things.
It says the sheriff was there ready to arrest the mother!
If McDonald's refuses to allow a black man to eat in their indoor seating area and tells him instead that he must hide around the corner in the bushes and a cook will run his food out to him to eat where he won't make the white customers uncomfortable, would it be more accurate to say that this black man has been denied service or that alternate provisions have been proposed?
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I think if they set this brotha loose in that Catholic church, they would forget about that autistic boy in a hurry.