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Certainly not a simple doctrine.

Certainly not a simple doctrine.

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So, what does the word mean to you? Why does it matter whether or not it is in the Bible?


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On the contrary , you introduced the term. I want to know how you came to get that term from the original text. I don’t need to do anything. So will you tell us or will you not?

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Can you give one of those scriptures and explain what the original Greek was, and whether that too contradicts his ideology, or is the contradiction only in the English translation? (and your interpretation of that translation, 'godhead' has a range of possible meaning).


We are debating an issue that is 2,000 years old, and we were not there. The fact that the Trinity, and the term Godhead are confusing to some, myself included, it not something to be ashamed of. Consider this: Judas betrayed Jesus......Thomas doubted Jesus....and Peter denied Jesus. These guys were THERE with Jesus....ate meals with Him, had first hand teaching from Him, witnessed His miracles....AND they all had issues with Him. Even if Jesus is not God, one would think that 2,000 years ago, these men would surely know that something is different about Jesus.

All I can say is that I have my doubts about this matter.....and I don't feel bad about it. At least I was NOT at the Last Supper with Jesus in person, and having the issues with Him that His disciples had.

I cannot offer proof either way. I just wanted to share my thoughts. Reasonable doubt regarding the Jesus/God debate is fair. As I read some other posts, I am astonished how some people seem so certain on this matter.....and have a snobbish attitude about it. That they are somehow even smarter and better than the very people who had the very same doubts right smack in the presence of Jesus Himself.


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Another falsehood and and unmitigated fabrication, the issue has absolutely nothing to do with my ideology and is simply a matter of accurate translation. You cannot answer the question that was put to you, either you simply use terms that you have no idea how they are derived from the text or you are as I suspect, unable to tell us what the Bible actually says.

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Well then I think we have to give Robbie the benefit of the doubt on this one. You have no good reason to claim his translation is worse than yours. I am not saying he is right, just that you don't know for a fact that he is wrong.
Were the rest of your verses also based on somewhat debatable interpretation?


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Am I not allowed to comment on a forum?? Do I need to send you a private message to ask permission to make some comments, or to give an opinion?? It is none of your business what my faith is!!!! It doesn't matter what I believe......If I am trying to understand who is in the Heavens, and ask questions, and make my comments, and adjust my faith as time goes on....then so be it!!! Mind your own business. What if I were Jewish.....and really wanted to know more about Jesus??

Every time I see a post from you, I cringe....because most of the time, you have nothing relevant to add to a discussion, you just feel a need to criticize somebody else. Why don't you just spend less time on these forums, and focus more on your chess game. Your rating proves my point.


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Originally posted by Rajk999
Higher than the angels but not equal to God in my estimation. Still under Gods subjection according the Bible.
As always, you're entitled to your opinion. Is it shared by your pastor/teacher?

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