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Originally posted by RJHindsOriginally posted by RJHinds in reply to chaney3
I get the impression that you learned about God and Jesus from others and never really studied the Holy Bible yourself. It can be helpful to learn the ideas of others, but it is what you believe that is really important. So I would suggest that before you get indoctrinated by other people's ideas that you actually read and study the entire Holy Bible yourself to see what it says to you.
HalleluYah !!! Praise the LORD! Holy! Holy! Holy!
"I get the impression that you learned about God and Jesus from others and never really studied the Holy Bible yourself. It can be helpful to learn the ideas of others, but it is what you believe that is really important. So I would suggest that before you get indoctrinated by other people's ideas that you actually read and study the entire Holy Bible yourself to see what it says to you."
HalleluYah !!! Praise the LORD! Holy! Holy! Holy!
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"11 And He gave some as apostles, and some as prophets, and some as evangelists, and some as pastors-teachers, 12 for the equipping of the saints for the work of service, to the building up of the body of Christ; 13 until we all attain to the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a mature man, to the measure of the stature which belongs to the fullness of Christ. 14 As a result, we are no longer to be children, tossed here and there by waves and carried about by every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, by craftiness in deceitful scheming; 15 but speaking the truth in love, we are to grow up in all aspects into Him who is the head, even Christ, 16 from whom the whole body, being fitted and held together by what every joint supplies, according to the proper working of each individual part, causes the growth of the body for the building up of itself in love." (Ephesians 4:11-16)
"15 So when they had dined, Jesus saith to Simon Peter, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me more than these? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my lambs. 16 He saith to him again the second time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my sheep. 17 He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, Feed my sheep.” (John 21:15-17 KJV) Note: These three words are among the last Christ spoke to His disciples; and establish His number one priority for all pastor-teachers.
Sheep are unable to find water or food by themselves; this graphic metaphor emphasizes the necessity for all believers in Christ to expose themselves systematically to the accurate teaching of the Word of God in order to grow in grace and in doing so glorify God..
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Originally posted by Rajk999"15 So when they had dined, Jesus saith to Simon Peter, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me more than these? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my lambs. 16 He saith to him again the second time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my sheep. 17 He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, Feed my sheep.” (John 21:15-17 KJV) Note: These three words are among the last Christ spoke to His disciples; and establish His number one priority for all pastor-teachers.
My teacher is Jesus Christ who said half a dozen times that he is subject to his Father and NOT EQUAL TO GOD.
Who is your pastor?
Sheep are unable to find water or food by themselves; this graphic metaphor emphasizes the necessity for all believers in Christ to expose themselves systematically to the accurate teaching of the Word of God in order to grow in grace and in doing so glorify God.."
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Jesus Christ taught men and women during the three year ministry of His First Advent; subsequently He has delegated this responsibility as "His number one priority for all pastor-teachers." because "Sheep are unable to find water or food by themselves."
Doctrine of the Trinity is unique to Christianity. Seeming paradox? Not quite. Three gods in one? No. God the Father and God the Son and God the Holy Spirit exist [and have always existed] as three separate and distinct persons who are coequal and coeternal, all possessing the same essential nature and divine attributes. "I and the Father are one." (John 10:30) God is one in essence but in three persons.
Since my twenties I've been taught the promises, doctrinal rationales and application principles revealed in the sixty six books in the Word of God by six different pastor-teachers all of whom taught faithfully from the original Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek [verse by verse, line upon line, precept upon precept] four to six times each week. One at present is Bill Wenstrom. Whom may I ask is your pastor-teacher?
-Removed-Okay divegeester. I don't know what to call myself at this time. I believe in God. I believe that Jesus is the son of God. I believe that the Holy Spirit is real. So...I do believe in all 3, but cannot grasp the concept that all 3 are the same. Hence, my dilemma with the Trinity. My frustration comes from the fact that Christians believe that Jesus is God. And, if that is true, I want to understand. Believe it or not, this forum is helping me. I am NOT looking to debate someone else's belief, or try to persuade anyone from their beliefs.
This answer to you should be helpful??
-Removed-Yes, the God I believe in is the Biblical OT God. As far as the title "Christian", I am not even sure anymore what would 'classify' a person as Christian. Do you need to believe that Jesus is God to be a Christian??
Hey....keep in mind....this is NOT easy for me. I feel completely lost sometimes with my faith.....and I'm not looking for fights with anyone. I can understand that my posts have a certain level of confusion and frustration attached to them.....but, that's where I am right now.