-Removed-Would you be inclined to agree with Great King Rat ~ and I am putting words in his mouth here based on the points he has put forward on this thread, and he can jump in of course and say I am misrepresenting him on "insult" and "freedom of speech" ~ and say that the creators of Piss Christ, in response to the criticism they got, should have found something even more insulting, even harsher, even more revolting to shock Christians with, BECAUSE they were insulted, and that that would have furthered the cause of free speech?
Great King Rat: if the above is not what you meant on this thread and not the approach to freedom of speech that you advocate, please set me straight.
Originally posted by FMFI don't support them but I don't think they should be outlawed either.
My question was: Do you fully support the right of people to insult you and to blaspheme what you believe in?
God is all powerful, and to think he needs man to execute vengeance for him is the ultimate insult to such a God. In a way, those same Muslims blaspheme their god in such a way.
Vengence is mine, I will repay says the Lord.
Originally posted by FMFPeople should be allowed to express what they believe even if it offends.
Do you think the creators of Piss Christ and Life of Brian should have censored themselves or do you welcome their work as valid contributions to and reaffirmations of the principle of freedom of speech?
Again, Christians follow after a man who essentially pissed off and offended pretty much every religious leader within ear shot, then he did the same with the political leaders as well.
There is an old saying, if you want to know who runs things, just find out who you are not allowed to insult or critique.
Originally posted by whodeyBut you are allowed to insult the sacred things of both Christian and Muslim, both in France and in your country, so what is your point? Who, according to your "if you want to know who runs things, just find out who you are not allowed to insult" thing [1] runs things because [2] you are not allowed to insult them? What are you on about?
There is an old saying, if you want to know who runs things, just find out who you are not allowed to insult or critique.