Originally posted by FreakyKBH"Not guilty your honour. When I hacked off that guys arms and cut out his heart I was only affecting his biological life. His human life DECIDED to die because it for some odd reason did not like its body anymore. Not MY fault."
Abortion isn't murder, as only biological life exists in the womb, not human life. Human life is a pre-requisite for someone to commit murder.
Originally posted by JadeMantiswell...while i dont agree with the act, jade brings up a good point, what is the difference between the two, what is the difference between murdering a fetus and murdering a person? Because if you can justify killing an unborn baby with that your line of thought, you can just as easliy justify killing anyone else
"Not guilty your honour. When I hacked off that guys arms and cut out his heart I was only affecting his biological life. His human life DECIDED to die because it for some odd reason did not like its body anymore. Not MY fault."
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Originally posted by c guy1I love how you're already claiming I'm 'out of arguments', as if this was the culmination of some lengthy debate that we've been having. 🙄
fine..fine..i cant prove it...but your avoiding the point. Murder is still murder, even if you want someone to kill you, i mean seriously...a person who is asking me to prove that a baby wants to live is obviously out of arguements and is trying to prove their point on an irrelevant idea. So fine, lets say the baby doesn't want to live, that still makes you a murderer....
You claimed the baby wanted to live. Congratulations on proving your own argument irrelevant.
Originally posted by c guy1There have been many debates on this forum about abortion, and your arguments are some of the most common that are employed. I'm not interested in rehashing the same old abortion arguments. Furthermore, I'm not very emotionally involved in the issue, and therefore have little interest in discussing it with someone who is emotionally charged.
fine, that last sentance of saying a baby wants to live was irrelevant, it is unproveable...happy? even if you got me on that point you have yet to adequetly defend any of the rest of the points I have brought up, your just setting up straw man arguements and knocking them down.
Originally posted by c guy1You seem to be having difficulty in gleaning the meaning of the posts herein. I shall spell it out for you, then.
so you agree, well i guess its true...if you can justify killing an innocent baby, you can defend anything...
True abortion, which occurs inside the womb, is termination of biological life, prior to birth. Birth is when biological life becomes human life. Birth is when biological life emerges from the womb. One of the procedures mentioned previously, of allowing the baby's head to emerge, etc., is murder, not abortion.
There is a thread on this forum that will help you in your misunderstanding of the issue, labled "Who give(s) human life?" You may wish to read the same, you may not. Choice is great, ain't it?
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Originally posted by FreakyKBHYou still have no answered the question I asked a couple posts back, so I will ask it again...If your so insistant on calling it biological life inside the mother and human life outside, what is the BIOLOGICAL difference between the baby prior to birth and the baby during birth?
You seem to be having difficulty in gleaning the meaning of the posts herein. I shall spell it out for you, then.
True abortion, which occurs inside the womb, is termination of biological life, prior to birth. Birth is when biological life becomes human life. Birth is when biological life emerges from the womb. One of the procedures mentioned previous ive(s) human life?" You may wish to read the same, you may not. Choice is great, ain't it?
Note that I am trying to understand your point of view, because if your so sure that your right, it is possible that you might be right, i personally believe that I am right, but I am willing to try and understand your point of view. I would appritiate if you would do the same.
Originally posted by BigDoggProblemand no, im not emotionally charged about this, im just simply debating with KreakyKBH.
There have been many debates on this forum about abortion, and your arguments are some of the most common that are employed. I'm not interested in rehashing the same old abortion arguments. Furthermore, I'm not very emotionally involved in the issue, and therefore have little interest in discussing it with someone who is emotionally charged.
Originally posted by FreakyKBHSo in your view, an abortion is the moral equivalent of terminating the biological life of your pet dog/cat/budgie/goldfish/fern?
You seem to be having difficulty in gleaning the meaning of the posts herein. I shall spell it out for you, then.
True abortion, which occurs inside the womb, is termination of biological life, prior to birth. Birth is when biological life becomes human life. Birth is when biological life emerges from the womb. One of the procedures mentioned previous ...[text shortened]... ive(s) human life?" You may wish to read the same, you may not. Choice is great, ain't it?
Originally posted by c guy1Biological life within the womb becomes human life, once imparted with soul life, by God, as the fetus comes away from the womb.
You still have no answered the question I asked a couple posts back, so I will ask it again...If your so insistant on calling it biological life inside the mother and human life outside, what is the BIOLOGICAL difference between the baby prior to birth and the baby during birth?
Note that I am trying to understand your point of view, because if your so sur ...[text shortened]... willing to try and understand your point of view. I would appritiate if you would do the same.
Biological life within the womb has the potential to become human life, once the same departs from the womb. Pets, although we love them, can never become human, therefore there is no comparison.