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Originally posted by Phlabibitha ha.
I see you have given us all your thoughts now... haven't ya.
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Originally posted by MetamorphosisNice post!!!!
Eve is largely blamed for the Fall of Man in the Old Testament.
In the New Testament, Jesus' apostles are all males. Jesus himself is male. The OT God is very masculine. So apparently if God has a gender, it is definitely male, according to Judeo-Christianity. Not only is woman not God, she is clearly problematic (Eve), as viewed through biblical d ...[text shortened]... e without first exploring the lures of Maya and Shakti, the goddesses of the manifest universe.
Originally posted by MetamorphosisThis is the full quote from Thomas:
Eve is largely blamed for the Fall of Man in the Old Testament.
In the New Testament, Jesus' apostles are all males. Jesus himself is male. The OT God is very masculine. So apparently if God has a gender, it is definitely male, according to Judeo-Christianity. Not only is woman not God, she is clearly problematic (Eve), as viewed through biblical d ...[text shortened]... e without first exploring the lures of Maya and Shakti, the goddesses of the manifest universe.
Originally posted by frogstompwhats the exact scripture in the bible? i wanna look it up.
This is the full quote from Thomas:
114) Simon Peter said to Him, "Let Mary leave us, for women are not worthy of Life." Jesus said, "I myself shall lead her in order to make her male, so that she too may become a living spirit resembling you males. For every woman who will make herself male will enter the Kingdom of Heaven."
not too different ...[text shortened]... rrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.
Originally posted by frogstompWhat do you make of that Thomas quote? Personally I suspect a problem with translation....probably what was intended was something more along the lines of "becoming committed" or "becoming focussed" or some other quality that somehow got translated as "male".
This is the full quote from Thomas:
114) Simon Peter said to Him, "Let Mary leave us, for women are not worthy of Life." Jesus said, "I myself shall lead her in order to make her male, so that she too may become a living spirit resembling you males. For every woman who will make herself male will enter the Kingdom of Heaven."
not too different ...[text shortened]... rrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.
Originally posted by dale21Men and women are great teachers for each other precisely because of the polarization, but in the realm of spiritual teachings feminine spirituality has in all likelihood been repressed over the centuries or suffered the ravages of time because it was not usually committed to texts. This seems to be true in the north Indian Tantric schools as well as in the pagan/Hermetic traditions.
Nice post!!!!
Lets face it we need women. But the male should show love and deep respect for her as her head, as she is the weaker vessel (emotionally). But i couldnt live without a woman, tho i am at the moment :'(
Originally posted by MetamorphosisMore along the lines that neither were going to have gender. That's why I used the Matthew quote. It makes sense that an all male clergy would see that as a drawback on getting men to become christians.
What do you make of that Thomas quote? Personally I suspect a problem with translation....probably what was intended was something more along the lines of "becoming committed" or "becoming focussed" or some other quality that somehow got translated as "male".