Originally posted by no1marauderYou're still stuck in this world. Different wave or not.
One way to explain rebirth is to think of all existence as one big ocean. An individual is a phenomenon of existence in the same way a wave is a phenomenon of ocean. A wave begins, moves across the surface of the water, then dissipates. While it exists, a wave is distinct from ocean yet is never separate from ocean. In the same way, that which is reborn is not the same person, yet is not separate from the same person.
Originally posted by vistesd"most" buddist are of asian descent; buddists of euro descent typically profess athiesm, asian buddist generally do not. buddism is wrapped into there cultural superstitions etc
I don’t know what “most” Buddhists believe. However, at least Mahayana Buddhism seems to be mostly nondualist, as opposed to dualistic theism.
Again, however, even within Mahayana, I am most familiar with Zen. The point is that, whether one wants to call it a philosophy or a religion, Buddhism does not depend on a (dualistic) theistic god or gods. The ...[text shortened]... tjoff Schuon calls “exoterism” and “esoterism” in his The Transcendent Unity of Religions
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Originally posted by duecer"Cultural superstitions"?
"most" buddist are of asian descent; buddists of euro descent typically profess athiesm, asian buddist generally do not. buddism is wrapped into there cultural superstitions etc
You sound like you were some type of "New Ager" with very little understanding of actual Buddhism or Buddhists. The links I gave should help you as well.
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Originally posted by C U SoonI've read it; it's pretty disgusting with all those God ordered mass murders. Seeking the path of self-enlightenment seems quite a bit preferable to grovelling before a non-existent Monster God.
no need to read it. i've got my faith. i know what i believe. you're the one who should do some reading, try maybe the christian bible.
In the future, perhaps you should try learning something about a philosophy before you make incorrect claims about it. Just a thought.
Originally posted by no1maraudersuit yourself.
I've read it; it's pretty disgusting with all those God ordered mass murders. Seeking the path of self-enlightenment seems quite a bit preferable to grovelling before a non-existent Monster God.
(2Co 4:4 GNB) They do not believe, because their minds have been kept in the dark by the evil god of this world. He keeps them from seeing the light shining on them, the light that comes from the Good News about the glory of Christ, who is the exact likeness of God.
i rest my case
Originally posted by C U SoonYou rested your mind a long time ago apparently. Quoting some semi-savage from 2000 years ago saying how everybody should believe what he does doesn't terribly impress me.
suit yourself.
(2Co 4:4 GNB) They do not believe, because their minds have been kept in the dark by the evil god of this world. He keeps them from seeing the light shining on them, the light that comes from the Good News about the glory of Christ, who is the exact likeness of God.
i rest my case
Originally posted by C U SoonObviously you're succeeding.
semi-savage? even though it is correct?
i'm not trying to impress anybody
There is nothing "correct" in the passage you quote. It's just a claim by a believer in one thing that anybody who believes differently is wrong (misled by an "evil god"😉. This is a fairly common claim by believers of many primitive and not so primitive religions.
Originally posted by no1marauderthe passage doesn't only make the statement that you are wrong in your belief, but also that because of that belief you can't see the truth.
Obviously you're succeeding.
There is nothing "correct" in the passage you quote. It's just a claim by a believer in one thing that anybody who believes differently is wrong (misled by an "evil god"😉. This is a fairly common claim by believers of many primitive and not so primitive religions.
just by replying in that manner you just proved that statement.
Originally posted by C U SoonRather unsurprisingly, you don't know what you're talking about. Such a vacuous claim can't be "proved" and it certainly can't be "proved" by someone saying it's a bunch of nonsense. You should get your head out of the Bible (though you seem to have little knowledge of it) and try a book on Elementary Logic.
the passage doesn't only make the statement that you are wrong in your belief, but also that because of that belief you can't see the truth.
just by replying in that manner you just proved that statement.
Originally posted by no1marauderLet me repeat, I was a practicing buddust for over 10 years, I think I know a bit about the subject.
"Cultural superstitions"?
You sound like you were some type of "New Ager" with very little understanding of actual Buddhism or Buddhists. The links I gave should help you as well.
All cultures have superstitions...all....all of them...without exception....get it?