Originally posted by dj2beckerWell you are saying the same thing that Im saying. At 15 you must have been seeing others in the church having problems with the church doctrine. Your eyes should be opened by then. Exposure from outside is a great help but it is not necessary. If you could have read the Bible and ask questions that is all the information and exposure you need. 90% of these nonsense rules laid down by these cult churches are not in the bible. In our case the church focus is bible study so we as a family were reading the Bible at at very early age, every single night. So by your mid teens you must know that these rules are manmade. Lack of information and complacency are the reasons why these cults survive.
From ages 0 to 15 I wasn't exposed to any other doctrine. When I got to uni I started visiting these forums. The rest is history.
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Originally posted by Rajk999As tempting as it may have sounded to drop out of school at 15 and leave everything and everyone behind that I knew to go out into the world knowing no one and leaving my support system behind I think I made the right call to finish uni first.
Well you are saying the same thing that Im saying. At 15 you must have been seeing others in the church having problems with the church doctrine. Your eyes should be opened by then. Exposure from outside is a great help but it is not necessary. If you could have read the Bible and ask questions that is all the information and exposure you need. 90% of thes ...[text shortened]... rules are manmade. Lack of information and complacency are the reasons why these cults survive.
Originally posted by dj2beckerI am sure a clinical psychologist would listen to the tall tale you have told here and soon come to the same conclusion as I have.
As I said before the dictionary definition doesn't exactly match my experience, but that said I haven't seen a clinical psychologist and maybe if I did they would agree with you.
Originally posted by dj2beckerAny clinical psychologist worth his salt would listen to the experiences you shared here and would confirm you were exposed to psychological abuse.
As I said before the dictionary definition doesn't exactly match my experience, but that said I haven't seen a clinical psychologist and maybe if I did they would agree with you.
*Dependent of course on your experiences being genuine.
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Originally posted by dj2beckerBack up there ... nobody said to drop out of anything. Awareness of your environment should start in your mid teens. Knowing where you are is the start. By the time you are ready to meet a woman and settle down you should have no time with the fools who are still in the church licking the church leaders butts, and unfortunately that includes your parents.
As tempting as it may have sounded to drop out of school at 15 and leave everything and everyone behind that I knew to go out into the world knowing no one and leaving my support system behind I think I made the right call to finish uni first.
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Originally posted by Rajk999We are all different Raj. I value my relationship with my parents. The Bible doesn't just say only honor your father and your mother if they didn't raise you in a cult.
Back up there ... nobody said to drop out of anything. Awareness of your environment should start in your mid teens. Knowing where you are is the start. By the time you are ready to meet a woman and settle down you should have no time with the fools who are still in the church licking the church leaders butts, and unfortunately that includes your parents.
Originally posted by dj2beckerI knew that was coming, and honouring your parents does not include following in their mistakes and bad decisions. Honour and love your parents but part company when you need to. Of course we are all different. Some come to the realization that their parents were mistaken when they are in their 70s, some do it at 20. In any case the lesson is that parents are there to guide children, not indoctrinate.
We are all different Raj. I value my relationship with my parents. The Bible doesn't just say only honor your father and your mother if they didn't raise you in a cult.
Originally posted by dj2beckerHonouring your mother and father is only half the pudding. Ephesians goes on to tell us, "Fathers, do not provoke your children to anger, but bring them up in the discipline and instruction of the Lord."
We are all different Raj. I value my relationship with my parents. The Bible doesn't just say only honor your father and your mother if they didn't raise you in a cult.
I don't think discipline and instruction extends to exposing one's child to an environment of psychological abuse, indoctrination or brain washing.
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Originally posted by Rajk999Sad state of affairs if the parents are also indoctrinated.
I knew that was coming, and honouring your parents does not include following in their mistakes and bad decisions. Honour and love your parents but part company when you need to. Of course we are all different. Some come to the realization that their parents were mistaken when they are in their 70s, some do it at 20. In any case the lesson is that parents are there to guide children, not indoctrinate.