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    05 Jun '17 01:25
    Devout Christians are sure Muslims won't make it to heaven and devout Muslims are sure Christians won't make it to heaven. Of course, they are both right!
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    05 Jun '17 01:28
    Originally posted by 667joe
    Devout Christians are sure Muslims won't make it to heaven and devout Muslims are sure Christians won't make it to heaven. Of course, they are both right!
    And you know how?
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    05 Jun '17 01:55
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    And you know how?
    He "knows" in the same way as you "know" you will go to heaven.
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    05 Jun '17 02:51
    Originally posted by FMF
    He "knows" in the same way as you "know" you will go to heaven.
    So you are saying you do not believe he knows.
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    05 Jun '17 02:55
    Originally posted by Eladar
    So you are saying you do not believe he knows.
    Of course I don't. They both believe they "know". I don't believe they do.
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    05 Jun '17 03:39
    Originally posted by FMF
    Of course I don't. They both believe they "know". I don't believe they do.
    Of course you don't.
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    05 Jun '17 04:09
    Originally posted by Eladar
    Of course you don't.
    An attempted zinger, I presume?
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    05 Jun '17 04:53
    Originally posted by FMF
    Of course I don't. They both believe they "know". I don't believe they do.
    Maybe they have a gut feeling like you do. Gut feelings are good enough for you aren't they?
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    05 Jun '17 05:141 edit
    Originally posted by dj2becker
    Maybe they have a gut feeling like you do. Gut feelings are good enough for you aren't they?
    If they have gut feelings about supernatural things, and want to air them in public, then that is OK by me. Sure.
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    05 Jun '17 05:34
    Originally posted by FMF
    If they have gut feelings about supernatural things, and want to air them in public, then that is OK by me. Sure.
    In your opinion is it reasonable to base a belief system upon a gut feeling?
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    05 Jun '17 05:40
    Originally posted by dj2becker
    In your opinion is it reasonable to base a belief system upon a gut feeling?
    We discussed "gut feelings" in depth before. I have no objection to people basing their belief systems of supernatural phenomena and entities, if it gives them some solace and purpose, and as long as it does not harm others.
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    05 Jun '17 06:12
    Originally posted by FMF
    We discussed "gut feelings" in depth before. I have no objection to people basing their belief systems of supernatural phenomena and entities, if it gives them some solace and purpose, and as long as it does not harm others.
    Do you think someone who believes in heaven and hell and shares that belief with others is harming others?
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    05 Jun '17 06:15
    Originally posted by dj2becker
    Do you think someone who believes in heaven and hell and shares that belief with others is harming others?
    In and of itself, and as long as it's not used as some kind of witting or unwitting psychological abuse of mentally vulnerable people or young children, no.
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    05 Jun '17 06:451 edit
    Originally posted by FMF
    In and of itself, and as long as it's not used as some kind of witting or unwitting psychological abuse of mentally vulnerable people or young children, no.
    Why do you think I was harmed when I heard about heaven and hell when I was a child?
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    05 Jun '17 06:49
    Originally posted by dj2becker
    Why do you think I was harmed when I heard about heaven and hell when I was a child?
    I don't know if you were.
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