Church of Iceland Depicts Christ with Breasts, Beard, Make Up

@philokalia said
The word natural here refers to the unforced & often-seen nature of the inclination. Like how it is more natural for a Muslim, or even a person who is an ex-Muslim from an Muslim home, to wash their feet standing up or to perhaps have a more conservative view of sexuality than, say, a Swede.

Lets try that.

Moreover, there is a unforced & often-seen inclination among Americans to believe that big government decreases your liberty, and that the efforts of private individuals are sufficient.

I think you are missing the word "some". Twice probably.

there is a some inclination among someAmericans
that would better reflect the truth don't you think?

@wolfgang59 said
Lets try that.

Moreover, there is a unforced & often-seen inclination among Americans to believe that big government decreases your liberty, and that the efforts of private individuals are sufficient.

I think you are missing the word "some". Twice probably.

there is a some inclination among someAmericans
that would better reflect the truth don't you think?

No, not really.

I think it would be watering down the truth and using overly cautious language.

You have a very interesting hobby, Wolfgang: Instead of making new, interesting posts, or engaging with posts by throwing our you ideas, you just go about nitpicking other's language.

Have you been officially signed onto the FMF alliance now that GOAD has gone, and are trying to emulate the posting style of your master?

@philokalia said
From the Daily Mail:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8744095/Churchs-woke-advert-featuring-bearded-Jesus-womens-breasts-sparks-outrage.html

Haha.

Why stop there? They should've made Jesus Asian, disabled, breastfeeding a child while making out with a man and wearing hijab.

@philokalia said
I think it would be watering down the truth and using overly cautious language.

In what way is it watering down the truth?
Do you not think it best to be cautious when making bold, unsubstantiated claims?

@philokalia said
You have a very interesting hobby, Wolfgang: Instead of making new, interesting posts, or engaging with posts by throwing our you ideas, you just go about nitpicking other's language.

I'm not nitpicking, I'm questioning the essence of your posts. I haven't even
begun to take apart your grammar.

Now - why do you want to turn a debate into a personal attack?

@wolfgang59 said
I'm not nitpicking, I'm questioning the essence of your posts. I haven't even
begun to take apart your grammar.

Now - why do you want to turn a debate into a personal attack?

Oh man, the grammar police is going John Paul Jones on me.

What'll I do?!

@wolfgang59 said
In what way is it watering down the truth?
Do you not think it best to be cautious when making bold, unsubstantiated claims?

How is it unsubstantiated?

It is common knowledge that the US has far less social welfare programs than its foreign counterparts. Its frequently stated that the US is the only modern, developed country without national healthcare.

It is an issue for which Americans have consistently stuck out.

Americans are also known for the trait of 'rugged individualism'

Professors study this as a subject specifically for Americans:
https://www.bu.edu/econ/files/2017/03/Frontier-Culture-The-Roots-and-Persistence-of-%E2%80%9CRugged-Individualism%E2%80%9D-in-the-United-States-2.pdf

Is it changing? Sure. The demographics of America itself are changing.

But, American culture has this heritage, and many Americans still have these attitudes.

Constantly tiptoeing around the words we use is pointless.

@philokalia said
Constantly tiptoeing around the words we use is pointless.

You should choose your words more wisely.

@wolfgang59 said
You should choose your words more wisely.

Thank you for the advice.

^^

@Philokalia
... let us not love in word or talk but in deed and in truth.

@wolfgang59 said
Lets try that.

Moreover, there is a unforced & often-seen inclination among Americans to believe that big government decreases your liberty, and that the efforts of private individuals are sufficient.

I think you are missing the word "some". Twice probably.

there is a some inclination among someAmericans
that would better reflect the truth don't you think?

I certainly don't think that, and that furthermore, the efforts of private, rich individuals is entirely insufficient.

Some Americans, indeed. Reagan Republicans.

@philokalia said

It is common knowledge that the US has far less social welfare programs than its foreign counterparts. Its frequently stated that the US is the only modern, developed country without national healthcare.

It is an issue for which Americans have consistently stuck out.

Yes, and this is NOT something to be proud of.

Not exactly loving our neighbor as we love ourselves, now, is it?

@suzianne said
Yes, and this is NOT something to be proud of.

Not exactly loving our neighbor as we love ourselves, now, is it?

OK, insert typical argument about how the US gives far more to charity than our socialist counterparts, etc.

Insert explanation of how the free market would be acting better without market inhibitors.

etc.

These are old arguments. We don't have to painstakingly go through them.

@philokalia said
OK, insert typical argument about how the US gives far more to charity than our socialist counterparts, etc.

That figure is horribly distorted by the amount Americans give to their churches.

Get some statistics on what international charities get per person from different countries.
(e.g. Save the Children, World Vision, Médecins Sans Frontières, ...)

@wolfgang59 said
That figure is horribly distorted by the amount Americans give to their churches.

Get some statistics on what international charities get per person from different countries.
(e.g. Save the Children, World Vision, Médecins Sans Frontières, ...)

Many churches sustain communities through their donations. You cannot possibly ask those donations to be discounted.