Originally posted by generalissimoThat is to say god only answers prayers if their is another explanation possible. For example, if you lost an arm and prayed for a new real arm, it won't happen, whereas if you have a fever and pray to get better, perhaps you got better because of your host resistance or the antibiotic you took.
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Originally posted by 667joeYou would be talking about a miracle, which by definition is a rare event. I would imagine that most Christians would struggle to have the faith needed to pray regularly for miracles , and if no-one is praying for the "new arm" then God can't answer a prayer that doesn't get said.
That is to say god only answers prayers if their is another explanation possible. For example, if you lost an arm and prayed for a new real arm, it won't happen, whereas if you have a fever and pray to get better, perhaps you got better because of your host resistance or the antibiotic you took.
Originally posted by 667joePeople shouldn't waste their energy praying . They should get off their butts and make this world a better place. Cause God aint out there. God is in all of us. And in that sense there is nothing supernatural about taking out the garbage. But it still has to be done.
God only answers prayers when coincidences are possible.
Originally posted by knightmeisterSo you are saying that most of the time God answers prayers, it is not a miracle?
You would be talking about a miracle, which by definition is a rare event. I would imagine that most Christians would struggle to have the faith needed to pray regularly for miracles , and if no-one is praying for the "new arm" then God can't answer a prayer that doesn't get said.
By it not being a miracle, do you mean that it would have happened anyway, or that it was within the normal laws of science? ie what does 'miracle' mean to you?
Do miracles that violate the laws of science ever happen?
Originally posted by twhiteheadWhat i am saying is, there is no god and when a theist thinks god answered a prayer, it is merely a coincidence, (or the person praying took matters into his own hands.)
So you are saying that most of the time God answers prayers, it is not a miracle?
By it not being a miracle, do you mean that it would have happened anyway, or that it was within the normal laws of science? ie what does 'miracle' mean to you?
Do miracles that violate the laws of science ever happen?
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Originally posted by 667joeYou are talking about prayers of petition. This is hardly the only means of praying. There are many other types of non-petition prayers that ask for nothing. What about those?
That is to say god only answers prayers if their is another explanation possible. For example, if you lost an arm and prayed for a new real arm, it won't happen, whereas if you have a fever and pray to get better, perhaps you got better because of your host resistance or the antibiotic you took.
Originally posted by 667joeno, meditation at least in the biblical sense means to mull over something in ones mind, it literally means talking in an undertone with oneself, not to God. Secondly there are prayers of thanks and prayers of praise none of which have anything to do with asking God for something, nor of meditating.
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Originally posted by 667joeMethinks that if you are going to offer a thought on a subject, then you should learn something of the subject lest it be construed as the rantings of the ignorant. Then, after learning something of the subject, offer said thought; not a baseless opinion that is masquerading as a thought.
Meditation.
Originally posted by BadwaterRight back at ya!
Methinks that if you are going to offer a thought on a subject, then you should learn something of the subject lest it be construed as the rantings of the ignorant. Then, after learning something of the subject, offer said thought; not a baseless opinion that is masquerading as a thought.