Originally posted by arbeider
[b]Yes that is the question I was asking myself this morning.
Collective salvation makes sense to me. There is something serious in the idea that we are one. My view is that to separate misinterprets something fundamental about life.
When we examine Christ's mighty prayer before His redemptive death, in John 17
, we see a collective salvation. The "they"
who are to be saved are built together into a oneness which likened to the very Triune God Himself.
Notice the relationship between the oneness the collective entity of the saved with the oneness of the Father
and the Son
"And I do not ask concerning these only, but concerning those also who believe into Me through their word. (v.20)
That they all may be one; even as You, Father, are in Me and I in You, that they also may be in Us; that the world may believe that You have sent Me. (v.21)
And the glory which You have given Me I have given to them, that they may be one, even as We are one. (v.22)
I in them, and You in Me, that they may be perfected into one, that the world may know that You have sent Me and have loved them even as You have loved Me." (v.23)
Notice that in this perfecting process the oneness of the Trinity becomes the uniting and building power of the oneness of the corporate body of the saved.
" ... that they may be one, even as We are one."
This is not only an eternal life infinite in duration. This is an eternal life, in quality as unlimited as God Himself. Are being reconciled to God consummates also in a total reconciliation between one another in an indestructible oneness.
Since the first couple of commandments is that we love God with our whole being and love one another as we love ourselves, it makes sense that complete salvation is both vertical towards God and horizontal towards one another in eternal love.