1. Standard memberXanthosNZ
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    It gravity a proven scientific fact?
    Has anyone ever seen a gravity?
    Why isn't equal teaching time given to the 'size doubling' theory or the 'God does it' theory?
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    11 Jul '05 22:21
    Originally posted by XanthosNZ
    It gravity a proven scientific fact?
    Has anyone ever seen a gravity?
    Why isn't equal teaching time given to the 'size doubling' theory or the 'God does it' theory?
    i've searched far and wide, but i have never spotted a gravity. i think it must mean that every time i jump toward the sky, god grabs my feet and pulls me back to earth's surface so that i don't go whirling off into space. making gravity merely look tenable must occupy most of god's time.
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    11 Jul '05 22:30
    Originally posted by XanthosNZ
    It gravity a proven scientific fact?
    Has anyone ever seen a gravity?
    Why isn't equal teaching time given to the 'size doubling' theory or the 'God does it' theory?
    I sense some mockery of the similar post on evolution, haha. Some major differences between gravity and evolution:
    We can test gravity right now - directly, as many times as we want and find all of our trials confirmed.
    We can see directly the action of gravity. eg. we can see a ball falling toward the earth.

    With evolution, these things are not possible because it is considered to be such a very long and slow process. One cannot observe its effects in a lifetime.
    These are some major reasons why some dispute one and not the other....
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    11 Jul '05 22:35
    Originally posted by yousers
    I sense some mockery of the similar post on evolution, haha. Some major differences between gravity and evolution:
    We can test gravity right now - directly, as many times as we want and find all of our trials confirmed.
    We can see directly the action of gravity. eg. we can see a ball falling toward the earth.

    With evolution, these things are not possib ...[text shortened]... effects in a lifetime.
    These are some major reasons why some dispute one and not the other....
    We can observe evolution. On a small scale at least.

    We can't observe gravity. We can observe it's effect on objects. Who knows what causes it? It could be God as LemonJello said.
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    11 Jul '05 22:51
    gravity is the theory that accounts for the fact that things supported only by air will fall to the ground, and the observations of the features of matter that we call mass. That gravity may eventually be replaced by a better theory remains a possibility in science. however, the major criticisms of the theory of gravity concern its reduced applicability the further one gets from celestial bodies, and it seems, black holes. essentially gravity is regarded as about as reliable a theory as science can achieve, as is the theory of evolution

    neither are facts in the strictest sense of the term; rather, they are interpretations of a large range of observable facts
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    11 Jul '05 23:29
    Originally posted by XanthosNZ
    We can observe evolution. On a small scale at least.

    We can't observe gravity. We can observe it's effect on objects. Who knows what causes it? It could be God as LemonJello said.
    If we consider changes within a single species to be evolution, yes we can observe it. No one has seen "macro-evolution" as it is referred to, and it is doubtful that one possibly could.

    So my point was, we have far more evidence -here and now- for gravity than we do for evolution. Sure, you can't see gravity, but you also can't see the wind, atoms, or your brain. Do you doubt them as well?

    As for causes, I agree. It could be God working through nature; it could be a creation of your mind, who knows?
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    12 Jul '05 00:042 edits
    Originally posted by yousers
    I sense some mockery of the similar post on evolution, haha. Some major differences between gravity and evolution:
    We can test gravity right now - directly, as many times as we want and find all of our trials confirmed.
    We can see direct ...[text shortened]... are some major reasons why some dispute one and not the other....
    Actually they do have to dispute gravity to get to creation based on the bible : since gravity is "proved" by observations that confirm it's conformance with a function of time and only by assuming that time is non-abelian or at least that time dependant functions are not integratable can they get to a 6000 year old universe.

    edit darn " " key
    edit 2 oops "y"
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    Gravity is a myth; time sucks.
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    12 Jul '05 07:43
    Originally posted by XanthosNZ
    We can observe evolution. On a small scale at least.

    We can't observe gravity. We can observe it's effect on objects. Who knows what causes it? It could be God as LemonJello said.
    No, not to the degree of major changes over time. No one can
    observe evolution to that degree, they can only see what good
    or bad breeding can do nothing more.
    Kelly
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    12 Jul '05 07:51
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    No, not to the degree of major changes over time. No one can
    observe evolution to that degree, they can only see what good
    or bad breeding can do nothing more.
    Kelly
    It creates young earth creationists?

    (bad breeding that is)
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    12 Jul '05 11:551 edit
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    No, not to the degree of major changes over time. No one can
    observe evolution to that degree, they can only see what good
    or bad breeding can do nothing more.
    Kelly
    examples of ongoing evolution :

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A51391-2004Apr28.html

    check this out and then you can say you've seen evolution at work:

    http://www.vexen.co.uk/holyshit/mudskipper.html


    and they said it couldn't be done...

    http://oceanlink.island.net/oinfo/biodiversity/flyingfish/flyingfish.html

    now all they need is the Wright fish to put do powered flight.

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    12 Jul '05 12:32
    Originally posted by frogstomp
    examples of ongoing evolution :

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A51391-2004Apr28.html

    check this out and then you can say you've seen evolution at work:

    http://www.vexen.co.uk/holyshit/mudskipper.html


    and they said it couldn't be done...

    http://oceanlink.island.net/oinfo/biodiversity/flyingfish/flyingfish.html

    now all they need is the Wright fish to put do powered flight.

    Interesting reads, I actually have read one of those before.
    I believe I could show you other animals, fish, planets and
    say examples of evolution too, reason being because they
    are animals, fish, and planets we have among us now.
    What do these prove? Are those just part and parcel of the
    mountain of evidence of evolution? Things like these are
    just what they are, calling them evidence adds to the pile
    of evidence, but really doesn’t mean much outside of calling
    them evidence.
    Kelly
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    15 Jul '05 09:05
    Originally posted by XanthosNZ
    We can observe evolution. On a small scale at least.

    We can't observe gravity. We can observe it's effect on objects. Who knows what causes it? It could be God as LemonJello said.
    We can observe evolution. On a small scale at least.

    Yip. That is microevolution. No one has observed macroevolution.
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    15 Jul '05 09:27
    Originally posted by dj2becker
    [b]We can observe evolution. On a small scale at least.

    Yip. That is microevolution. No one has observed macroevolution.[/b]
    I am currently working on a theory of quantum levity. However, there are a number of strings attached.
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    Originally posted by Pawnokeyhole
    I am currently working on a theory of quantum levity. However, there are a number of strings attached.
    So by when do you hope to have all the strings attached?😉
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