03 Feb 15
Originally posted by twhiteheadYes, my point is that Christians who want to insert God into science would have an uphill battle against an assortment of other religions and their gods. If science is not free from one religion it is not free from any of them.
None of them, obviously. We would look for another scientific explanation that was backed by evidence, not holy books.
03 Feb 15
Originally posted by RJHindsThe thousands of Rabbis who disagree with you, instead of questioning the years they spent studying Hebrew, will be relieved to know that you have admitted to being fallible.
Yes, of course. Yom means day. One of the meanings of day is 'a period of time'. However, in the context of Genesis one in which each day is numbered and consists of an evening and morning just like every other 24 hour day of the week in a Jewish calendar, and the seventh day is described as a Sabbath day of rest for God as well as man, it should be obvious that 'a period of time' is 24 hours for each numbered day of that seven day week.
03 Feb 15
Originally posted by RJHindsKen Ham's list of 'Arguments Creationists Should not use' is directed at Hovind. Disagreements among the various factions of creationism demonstrate that it is not the clear teaching of Genesis, but merely a collection of opinions.
I don't know what you could mean by being bitterly divided. A minor disagreement here or there does not equate into being bitterly divided. Ken Ham is also a young earth creationist.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Ham
03 Feb 15
Originally posted by RJHindsEvolution has been scientifically verified over and over for 150 years. It is the dominant principle in biology, taught in nearly every university on earth and accepted by virtually all scientists. Oil companies use it to find deposits. The science of Immunology is Darwinism from beginning to end. Even Ken Ham admits that Darwin was right about natural selection. Every creationist accepts speciation, Darwin's main focus. If this is 'disproven' perhaps you need to invest in a dictionary.
That is where you are wrong. Evolution has been disproven.
Evolution Demolition
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wf32BXMSN7A
Evolution is Wrong: Darwinism Exposed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xL7TVSRGft8
The Death of Darwinism: The New Evolutionism - Soft Tissue Dinosaurs, etc. - Dr. G. Charles Jackson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xA4qfSlPtgI
03 Feb 15
Originally posted by catstormThousands? Perhaps a couple, but definitely not thousands. I believe all Jewish Rabbis would agree that the fourth commandment refers to remembering the creation by God by working six 24-hour days and resting on the seventh 24-hour day as a Sabbath to the Lord. So it would be hard for them to justify a belief that the creation days in Genesis are not also 24-hour days.
The thousands of Rabbis who disagree with you, instead of questioning the years they spent studying Hebrew, will be relieved to know that you have admitted to being fallible.
03 Feb 15
Originally posted by catstormNatural selection is just another name for selective breeding which had been known for centuries before Darwin. Natural selection results in selective variations within species. It is not the same as evolution or origin of species.
Evolution has been scientifically verified over and over for 150 years. It is the dominant principle in biology, taught in nearly every university on earth and accepted by virtually all scientists. Oil companies use it to find deposits. The science of Immunology is Darwinism from beginning to end. Even Ken Ham admits that Darwin was right about natural ...[text shortened]... iation, Darwin's main focus. If this is 'disproven' perhaps you need to invest in a dictionary.
Oil companies don't use evolution and neither does the science of immunology. 😏
03 Feb 15
Originally posted by RJHinds"By the early to mid 1900's the majority of Conservative and Reform Jews came to accept evolution as a scientific fact.". (The Challenge of Creation- Judaism's Encounter with Science, Cosmology and Evolution, Nathan Slifkin). The Rabbinical Council of America and the Jewish Theological Seminary of America also have accepted an old earth, as have many Orthodox Rabbis.
Thousands? Perhaps a couple, but definitely not thousands. I believe all Jewish Rabbis would agree that the fourth commandment refers to remembering the creation by God by working six 24-hour days and resting on the seventh 24-hour day as a Sabbath to the Lord. So it would be hard for them to justify a belief that the creation days in Genesis are not also 24-hour days.
03 Feb 15
Originally posted by RJHindsNatural selection is the selective breeding done by Nature, which produces new species and which is accepted as fact by Creation Science. For a look at how oil companies use the well proven principles of evolution see ' The Role of Paleontology in Hydrocarbon Exploration: Abstract', H.J.Sullivan. Amoco Canada. The reason last year's flu vaccine does not work on this year's flu is because the virus that resists it survives and reproduces. Natural selection and textbook Darwinism.
Natural selection is just another name for selective breeding which had been known for centuries before Darwin. Natural selection results in selective variations within species. It is not the same as evolution or origin of species.
Oil companies don't use evolution and neither does the science of immunology. 😏
03 Feb 15
Q: Has speciation been observed?
A: "No informed creationist would state that speciation has not been observed.". CreationWiki, Microevolution.
Darwin's 'On the Origin of Species', does not speak of 'molecules to man', as anyone who has read it knows. It speaks of speciation, which is accepted by all creationists including Kent Hovind. http://.youtube.com/watch?v:I-:IMY
03 Feb 15
Originally posted by catstormWhether or not they accept evolution has no relevance to them knowing that the author of the fourth commandment and the Genesis account of creation meant for those days to be interpreted as 24-hour days.
"By the early to mid 1900's the majority of Conservative and Reform Jews came to accept evolution as a scientific fact.". (The Challenge of Creation- Judaism's Encounter with Science, Cosmology and Evolution, Nathan Slifkin). The Rabbinical Council of America and the Jewish Theological Seminary of America also have accepted an old earth, as have many Orthodox Rabbis.
03 Feb 15
Originally posted by catstormAs I said before, this depends on the definition of species.
Q: Has speciation been observed?
A: "No informed creationist would state that speciation has not been observed.". CreationWiki, Microevolution.
Darwin's 'On the Origin of Species', does not speak of 'molecules to man', as anyone who has read it knows. It speaks of speciation, which is accepted by all creationists including Kent Hovind. http://.youtube.com/watch?v:I-:IMY
03 Feb 15
Originally posted by catstormThe virus that survives is an example of survival of the fittess not evolution.
Natural selection is the selective breeding done by Nature, which produces new species and which is accepted as fact by Creation Science. For a look at how oil companies use the well proven principles of evolution see ' The Role of Paleontology in Hydrocarbon Exploration: Abstract', H.J.Sullivan. Amoco Canada. The reason last year's flu vaccine does n ...[text shortened]... se the virus that resists it survives and reproduces. Natural selection and textbook Darwinism.
03 Feb 15
Originally posted by RJHindsRabbis who accept an old earth are obviously not reading the six days literally.
Whether or not they accept evolution has no relevance to them knowing that the author of the fourth commandment and the Genesis account of creation meant for those days to be interpreted as 24-hour days.